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To think that Katie (or the queen) should make up formula following NHS guidelines

196 replies

ReallyTired · 07/05/2015 10:46

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3071020/Behind-scenes-Great-Granny-meets-Charlotte.html?ito=social-facebook

Kate's decision to bottlefeed is a personal one. It is her decision how she feeds her baby. Like every mum in the land she deserves support and the freedom to make her own baby feeding decisions. However I feel its important that whoever is making up feeds does it safely and follows NHS guidelines.

There is no reason to make up feeds in batches or use the microwave to heat formula. The microwave can be used to sterilise the bottles, but not to heat up pre made feeds. It would be awful if princess Charolotte got burnt by hot spots of milk in the bottle or contracted gastrocentitis. They have a qualfied nanny who surely must be familiar with current recommendations.

NHS guidelines

Lots of mums with two children under two have to manage without paid help.

OP posts:

OurGlass · 07/05/2015 18:18

I'm dying reading this. So so so funny.

ollieplimsoles · 07/05/2015 18:23

Just caught up with this thread, seriously funny stuff, I'm marking my place in case OP ever comes back! :D

stoopstoconker · 07/05/2015 18:53

But it's in the Daily Mail...it must be true!

VexiLexi303 · 07/05/2015 19:09

To be fair the comments about this on the Daily Fail Mail's page are even more hilarious and there's a good few that believe the look likes are the real Royal family too! Between people cooing over the 'Queen' changing a nappy or the up roar that the 'Royal Baby' might be gasp bottle fed !

Please come back, OP! It's all in good fun!

AldiQ7 · 07/05/2015 19:11

Putting aside the hilarity of the OP thinking it was the actual royal family for just one moment......

The WHO says you can batch make bottles if you have access to clean water, refrigeration and use them within 24 hours.

So there.

LynetteScavo · 07/05/2015 19:19

Why isn't the baby wearing a vest?

And those bottles look....crap.....as well as far, far, far too much milk for a newborn.

Maybe they are actually Georges, and the HV should go round to explain that George is far too old for a bottle now.

LaLaLaaaa · 07/05/2015 19:22

OP I sympathise- I'm pregnant and knackered and I tried to phone someone with the remote controls the other day.

Have a lie down and some

Gruntfuttock · 07/05/2015 19:31

I've just had a look at the DM comments and one of them was referring to this thread! It said "A poster on Mumsnet has taken this article as being real and started a thread about how the bottles have been made up incorrectly..."

Waltermittythesequel · 07/05/2015 19:32

The second post wins Mumsnet!

Minifingers · 07/05/2015 19:38

"The WHO says you can batch make bottles if you have access to clean water, refrigeration and use them within 24 hours."

It also says, "It is safest to prepare a fresh feed each time one is needed, and to consume immediately."

But as I said earlier, there are only a few deaths connected with contaminated baby formula in Europe, spread over a number of years, and it is so much more convenient to make bottles up in advance.

ragged · 07/05/2015 20:05

You've been around F O R E V E R, RT, I'm sure it's time for a name-change anyway.

Fairy13 · 07/05/2015 20:15

Brilliant. Also, love that Kate would be using cheapo non branded wilko bottles!!!

mangoespadrille · 07/05/2015 20:17

Am I the only one who wants OP to watch Newzoids and do a running commentary for us?

With regards to bottles, a perfect prep machine is £60 and prepares a safe, correct temp bottle in around one minute. It is the best £60 I have ever spent.

AldiQ7 · 07/05/2015 20:19

But as I said earlier, there are only a few deaths connected with contaminated baby formula in Europe, spread over a number of years, and it is so much more convenient to make bottles up in advance.

But, as someone else pointed out to you in reply to your point earlier in the thread (and you conveniently ignored) illness/death from contaminated formula is nothing to do with batch making. As long as you make the formula with water at 70 degrees you will kill the really dangerous bacteria in the formula, and that milk is perfectly safe to keep for 24 hours in a fridge.

Do you think the WHO would say you could batch make at all if it was so dangerous to do it that way?

It is adding the powder to cold water which is much more dangerous as you cannot kill the bacteria in the milk that way.

But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of you making your non point about bottle feeding mums putting convenience above the safety of their babies

scarletforya · 07/05/2015 20:19

Hilarious!

sharonthewaspandthewineywall · 07/05/2015 20:24

There is actually no evidence that the cool shot is safe mango

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 07/05/2015 20:35

How is the perfect prep any different from a kettle ?

ADogCalledLamb · 07/05/2015 20:42

Brilliant

Fairy13 · 07/05/2015 20:43

The safest and quickest way to make a bottle is this:
2oz of boiling water. Add powder. Shake. Add 3oz cooled boiled water from the fridge.
5oz bottle, perfect temp, completely safe.

Can't understand why you would do it any other way.

mangoespadrille · 07/05/2015 20:48

Sharon I thought it was ok because the issue is with the non sterile powder, which is dealt with by the hot shot?

Dame, it's sooo much faster than the kettle!

Blu · 07/05/2015 20:51

The real danger here is that the poor child is being cuddled with its face pressed tight against the Queen's lethal brooch

She'll have its eye out!

Minifingers · 07/05/2015 21:06

"As long as you make the formula with water at 70 degrees you will kill the really dangerous bacteria in the formula, and that milk is perfectly safe to keep for 24 hours in a fridge."

Not according to the WHO. They absolutely don't say it's 'perfectly safe'. Saying that it's 'safer' to make it up fresh implies that it's not 'perfectly' safe to keep it in the fridge for 24 hours.

Even if you make it up with very hot water, who's to know that it will ALWAYs kill off ALL of the bugs? And on the odd chance that it's not all killed off, you don't want to give it a chance to breed. I think about this particularly in relation to the method of putting only half the amount of hot water in to start with (with a view to topping it up with cold to bring it to a temperature where it can be used straight away) - as soon as the very hot water touches the powder it will lose heat - the more powder there is the quicker the water will lose heat as it's mixed. Who's to guarantee that all the powder will be exposed to water of the correct temperature for long enough to ensure that salmonella and e-sakazakii is killed?

sharonthewaspandthewineywall · 07/05/2015 21:09

It's something to do with how pure the cool shot is

Minifingers · 07/05/2015 21:10

"The safest and quickest way to make a bottle is this:"

The safest and quickest way to make up a bottle is to use ready made formula.

FrSpodoKomodo · 07/05/2015 21:12

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