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To have refused this childcare request?

49 replies

MooCowsEyelashes · 04/05/2015 12:23

Was I unreasonable to say no to this, and not feel guilty?

DH and I were booked to go out for dinner, and as an afterthought I invited DSis and DNs to join us because she's recently separated from her husband and I thought it would be nice. She accepted, but changed the dinner appointment to an earlier time slot as it would be easier for her and DNs.

An hour before dinner, she called me to say that her friend needed some advice, and would she mind if she left DNs with me for dinner while she went off to see her friend. She would be gone until about 10pm, so I would either have to bring DNs back to my house, or go to their house and put them to bed (they're 8 and 6).

I'm currently renovating my house, so it's a building site, so I told her that it wasn't really appropriate to bring DNs to mine as there was literally nowhere for them to sit. Because of the lack of seating, I said that our original plan was for DH and I to come home after dinner and watch a film in bed. She said that's fine, the DNs "can just snuggle up in bed with you and DH".

I'm currently suffering from a medical problem where I'm in a great deal of pain and need to rest and lie down a lot. I'm having major surgery in a couple of days time, so this weekend was to be the last time DH and I could spend some quality time together relaxing before my surgery. Plus, my bed isn't really big enough for 4, the film we were watching wasn't child friendly, and DH isn't overly comfortable around the DNs as he's not used to children (certainly not comfortable enough to share a bed with them).

What's more, I don't really think it's fair on the DNs to keep them up in a strange house until 10pm. But that's not really my responsibility.

I initially agreed (because I'm a pushover), because I thought that DH wanted to continue with working on the renovation and I could just take the DNs home to their beds where they would be more comfortable. However, DH then told me he only had an hour or so more work to do then wanted to just chill and watch a film together as planned.

So I called DSis back and told her sorry, we couldn't do it. She wouldn't accept it. She again suggested that the DNs could just come into bed with us, but I said no, we wanted our evening together and that was that.

I suggested she left earlier and therefore could come home earlier, but she refused. I suggested she went to see her friend the next day if it was that urgent, and she refused as she 'had stuff to do'.

She made a sarcastic comment about her 'not realising you had planned a romantic night in', and again asked me to change my plans. She tried, and tried, and tried.

At that point I stood my ground and said that I was initially ok with the idea because I thought DH wanted to carry on working - but those were our plans now, and I didn't have to justify them to her. I said it was fine to have asked, but she had to accept that the answer was no.

She cancelled our dinner plans and took the DCs off to her friend's house. When we got to the bar, we found out that she hadn't informed them of her cancellation so we were left to explain to them that the table for 5 was now a table for 2, and that spare table sat empty for the rest of the evening when they could have otherwise filled it.

I saw her the next day - she didn't mention it, didn't apologize and barely spoke to me. To the point where everyone else I saw was wishing me luck and giving me hugs before my surgery, and she was the only one who didn't.

She has form for this - she's not used to me saying no, as my parents and I usually bend over backwards to accommodate her childcare needs.

Was I unreasonable to refuse to take care of her children? Am I unreasonable to be thoroughly pissed off?

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CloserToFiftyThanTwenty · 04/05/2015 13:22

I love my DN dearly and am close to them - but would draw the line at "snuggling in bed" with them...

expatinscotland · 04/05/2015 13:22

YANBU.

MooCowsEyelashes · 04/05/2015 13:23

She had a date planned, mark my words

That was my first thought!

Hmm you're all making me wonder some more now. I did think, when I said it might have been ok if she could just come home an hour earlier, and she absolutely refused to budge on that - I wondered why she couldn't just go to her friend's earlier, and therefore come home earlier.

I thought, if her friend was that desperate for her help, she wouldn't mind what time she came. (also ironic that the reason she gave for this inflexibility was due to her friend's child needing to be in bed by a certain time, whilst having no apparent regard for her own DCs need for their own beds)

She also said that the reason her friend couldn't meet her yesterday instead was that it was friend's DNs birthday that day. But I've just seen on FB that the same DN is celebrating her birthday today, not yesterday....

Shame I won't see my DNs to grill them some more. Ah well, I'll just have to let it go.

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YouTheCat · 04/05/2015 13:24

I'd bet my bottom dollar she had a date and palmed her kids off on someone else when you said no.

TheMaddHugger · 04/05/2015 13:29

Many (((((((((((Hugs))))))))))))) and best thoughts for your Upcoming surgery and recovery.

MooCowsEyelashes · 04/05/2015 13:33

Awwww thank you MaddHugger!!! That has made me smile!

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SirChenjin · 04/05/2015 13:39

Yeah, she went to the friends - and went onto the date from there (or he was at the friend's house). I'm old and cynical - no way was comforting a friend Grin

You'll not forget this in a hurry, I'm sure - and yes, good luck with the surgery Flowers

MooCowsEyelashes · 04/05/2015 13:42

Hmm I've done a bit of digging. All the hallmarks of her previous affair are starting to show again.

I'm now pretty certain she has resumed her affair, just not sure whether the other night was an attempt to palm the DCs off on me to see him or not. I'll have to get the DNs alone and make some subtle enquiries about how they spent the evening.

FFS.

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MooCowsEyelashes · 04/05/2015 13:44

You'll not forget this in a hurry, I'm sure

She put me and my family through a terrible time last year with all her lying and scheming. She blamed me for not supporting her, and my family turned against me.

This is the last bloody thing I need when I'm facing surgery. Damn right I won't forget this in a hurry, if I find out she has lied to me again and put me under pressure for her own selfish gain.

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CrystalHaze · 04/05/2015 13:50

Is she feeling resentful because you're still in a relationship whereas hers has gone tits up?

MooCowsEyelashes · 04/05/2015 13:53

Hers went tits up because she destroyed it. But yes, I think there is a bit of resentment there, and mistrust of my DH because he's a strong supportive voice who counters her attempts to manipulate me.

I won't feel guilty about being happy though.

I'm going through a really tough time with my health. I'll take whatever happiness with my DH that I can find.

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2rebecca · 04/05/2015 13:55

If she is now separated it isn't an affair but it sounds like she was lying. It wasn't an emergency so backing out of your plans was unreasonable. You know not to book more meals together as she is flaky

bloodyteenagers · 04/05/2015 14:02

if it was legit she could have suggested that the mate
Goes to hers. Dn's go with you for dinner then drop them in after so you too could go home and do what you wanted.

pressone · 04/05/2015 14:06

YANBU to not want to pander to her childcare needs
YANBU to consider your health over and above her social life
YANBU to be pissed off
YABU to have not rung the restaurant & advised therm of the change of seating plans

Good luck with the op, and take care of yourself - don't worry about her expectations, they are hers to manage. Flowers Flowers

Bodyinpyjamas10 · 04/05/2015 14:13

Cheeky cow!!

Keep your distance op and best of luck for your op. Xx

Stripyhoglets · 04/05/2015 14:55

Have you posted about her before? Is she the one who had an affair with a pillar of the community? No you weren't being unreasonable btw. She was.

shewept · 04/05/2015 15:11

Tbh, given the circumstances I would have been pissed off when she rang and said she wasn't coming, but ask you to still take her kids. She attempted to snag her self a babysitter, without your realising.

I suspect its a date and since she doesn't want you to know, its prob whoever she had the affair with and knows you wouldn't babysit for her.

Personally, if she made last year awful for you. I am unsure why you would invite her to dinner to cheer her up. It doesn't sound like you get much out of your relationship with her.

MooCowsEyelashes · 04/05/2015 15:20

It doesn't sound like you get much out of your relationship with her.

She's quite a negative influence in many ways. But I love my DNs and knew that this might be the only chance I'd get to spend time with them before I go in to hospital, since she can't be bothered bringing them to visit me.

She knows this, and plays on it, using the DNs as capital. She's delightful!

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blushingbooty · 04/05/2015 18:53

If your family are that easily swayed, then perhaps they are more like her then you?

Sounds like she was annoyed because she couldn't get laid.

I hope your DNs don't begin to take after her but they may well do so in the future despite everything you try.

AyeAmarok · 04/05/2015 19:24

Oh I remember you're posts on this sister! (I'm a namechanger). God she has a serious brass neck, your sister.

YANBU at all. She is a real piece of work.

I hope your surgery goes well. Flowers

AyeAmarok · 04/05/2015 19:33

YOUR* Blush

DontBeAMeanie · 04/05/2015 19:45

I'm usually a helpful person and I think some people expect me to agree to anything. I find it useful to really pause and think when I'm asked to do something and if I'm not sure I have learnt to say that I can't answer right away as I have to check something. It then gives me time to think it through.

MooCowsEyelashes · 04/05/2015 20:12

I find it useful to really pause and think when I'm asked to do something and if I'm not sure I have learnt to say that I can't answer right away as I have to check something

I try to do that too, I usually say I'll check with DH first, but then I worry that people will think DH is controlling me (he absolutely isn't).

But who cares what people think eh?

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shewept · 04/05/2015 21:13

I usually say 'i need to check what our plans are first, will call you back'

I don't give a shit if people think I am asking dhs permission. i am asking what he thinks which is what most considerate people do. Its his evening too. I would always check before booking something, mostly because i have a shit memory and its entirely possible we have made plans and I have forgotten.

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