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Neighbours dog killed cat :(

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spudholes · 02/05/2015 21:02

Our next door neighbour has a staffie dog. I was talking to her over the fence and a cat came into the garden and the dog flew at it and killed it Sad. I was very upset and neighbour said it was the cats fault for coming into her garden.

I have found out that the ower of said cat is away on holiday Sad Neighbour says she's not going to tell them what happened when they get back.

Should I tell them?

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JulyKit · 03/05/2015 11:04

You can't get rid of the wild bird problem unless you get rid of cat ownership entirely.

Hmm... The decimation of the sparrow population is seen to be the result of the numbers of domestic cats, particularly in cities, not the existence of domestic cats per se.

So, actually, if people better understood the true nature of these 'passive' Grin creatures, then maybe the bird population would be a little better off.

Dogs can be prevented from killing. Cats can't.

Dogs should be prevented from killing domestic animals, obviously, and where it's not possible to control dogs' prey-drive, they need to be kept on leads where there's a danger of them attacking domestic or protected animals.

It's not possible to train all dogs to leave smaller creatures alone. As everyone knows, there are huge numbers of terriers in rescue centres etc. Many of these dogs haven't been socialised around other animals, but are still great with people and (sometimes) other dogs.

Yes, you could argue that such dogs should always be muzzled/on lead, even on their owners' property, (or that they should be deemed 'dangerous', destroyed, etc..) so that the cat/rodent population can wander freely on any private land they choose.... And if the owners of those dogs happen to love the birds in their gardens, and those birds get killed by local wandering cats, then what the hell? because cats can't be controlled, right?

BTW, there was a great thread started yesterday about working animals. It's a great reminder of how useful and intelligent animals can be, as can be their relationship with humans, when people accept that there's a great deal more to them than their being 'passive' fluffy moving-cushion-things to decorate the suburbs and demonise from time to time when they show signs of being what they were bred to be.

Anyway, sorry for derailing. Blush

Reginafalangie · 03/05/2015 11:06

Why is it that my dog who lives with 2 cats and pretty much allows them to rule him ( they eat out of his bowl, sleep on him and generally bully him) will chase a cat like he is the devils own dog when one comes in the garden?

Genuine question btw Smile

JulyKit · 03/05/2015 11:09

I think the clue to the answer to your question is in the word 'dog', Regina. Smile

Reginafalangie · 03/05/2015 11:11

Ha ha I get that he is a dog I just never understood why he hates other cats but allows our 2 to bully him. Daft old dog I think Smile

spudholes · 03/05/2015 11:15

The dog just darted at the cat, it all happened so quickly. I don't think the owner could've done anything Sad. I will be putting a note through the door later, don't know how i'm going to word it.

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Psipsina · 03/05/2015 11:17

Good post July, thanks for that. I don't think cats trump dogs or dogs trump cats but there are clearly issues and people need to find a solution that makes everyone happy.

I hope we can have a cat one day and not be worried that it'll be decapitated by next door's dog if it puts a foot wrong. But I don't know what the answer is.

Moln · 03/05/2015 11:17

The decrease in sparrows is down to cats? Confused

JulyKit · 03/05/2015 11:18

Daft old dog

I know, I know, Grin

... But your question is a bit like me asking why our old dear wags her tail, slobbers and rolls around like a puppy at the approach of family and friends (by which I mean anyone she knows, even vaguely...) but barks/growls if she sees or hears the approach of someone or something unfamiliar or uninvited on her territory/our property. As far as she's concerned, that's her job.

Same with yours and cats, I guess.

Methe · 03/05/2015 11:19

I thought the decline in sparrows in cities was due to the decline in hedges.

Reginafalangie · 03/05/2015 11:20

Thank you July Grin

Moln · 03/05/2015 11:23

Reginafalangie I think it's because dogs are pack animals, the cats are part of his pack (as are you), other cats are invaders and must be Made to Leave.

tabulahrasa · 03/05/2015 11:24

"I hope we can have a cat one day and not be worried that it'll be decapitated by next door's dog if it puts a foot wrong. But I don't know what the answer is."

You ask the dog's owner what it's like with cats, if it is not ok with them, you install cat proof fencing on your garden.

JulyKit · 03/05/2015 11:25

Thank you, Psipsina.

I think some rescue centres have cats needing homes who can't leave the house, because of age or health or something? Maybe that could be a way forward to finding a dear moggy for safe-keeping? Smile

(Again, sorry for derail Blush.)

Moln · 03/05/2015 11:26

Maybe the cats cut down the hedges Methe, or possible the cats responsible for urban sprawl and pollution.

Psipsina · 03/05/2015 11:26

I have a feeling Tabulah that they would probably object to any cat proof fencing we installed. We already have 6ft fences, it would need to be a few feet higher than that, and would look hideous...plus we would need to apply for planning permission to put it up. Which would probably be refused as they would object.

Psipsina · 03/05/2015 11:27

Yes July, it might. Smile

High fences would solve our ball problem...[thinks]

JulyKit · 03/05/2015 11:29

I think there are thought to be several factors contributing to the sparrow-crisis. Massive domestic cat population is thought to be one of them.

(Not that I am blaming cats, btw... I'm all for cats. And hedges. And dogs, as it happens.)

tabulahrasa · 03/05/2015 11:34

Cat proof doesn't mean higher - it's poles running horizontally on the inside of your fence or a panel that sits at a 90 degree angle...both at the height of the fence pointing in the way.

monkeyfacegrace · 03/05/2015 11:38

You just need something like this. Easy to do and the wire doesn't need to be this big either.

Neighbours dog killed cat :(
tabulahrasa · 03/05/2015 11:40

That's the pole style one as well.

Neighbours dog killed cat :(
GentlyBenevolent · 03/05/2015 11:45

Our young cat (9months old) has been missing for 2 weeks. I guess - in the absence of any information at all about what has happened to her - that she has been either stolen or killed. My DD2- whose cat she is- is in a terrible state, still, about her missing pet. If a neighbours dog has killed her and they haven't told us then that is a despicable thing. Really disgusting. I hope you report your neighbour to the police and that her dog is put down. Some people wonder why many people find dogs and dog owners disgusting - this is an example of why.

MythicalKings · 03/05/2015 11:51

I wish there were cat proof fences to stop the getting into our garden

tabulahrasa · 03/05/2015 11:53

That's the thing, it's much easier to keep a cat in your garden than it is to stop other people's coming in.

JulyKit · 03/05/2015 11:56

I'm really sorry to hear that, Gently.

I think there is hope, though. A friend's cat was found six weeks after he'd gone missing. He'd got locked in a garden shed nearby. Nobody knew how long he'd been there for, but he was OK after all.

Have you put up signs in your area? People can be really helpful if you do you know, even those disgusting dog owners who tend to be out and about and might actually see the signs or eve the cat and let you know

Also, I should add to the 'disgusting' dog owners, as potential culprits: thieves, car drivers, local foxes, other cats, wicked neighbour who's decided to feed and pet said cat.... Oh, the universe can be so benevolent in providing a scapegoat when you really want one...

Psipsina · 03/05/2015 12:18

That's interesting about the fencing. I still don't think it would work for us - we have trees, we'd have to get rid of all of those or the cat would just climb up one and over and out. Also there is a gate which would need to be covered somehow. Really complicated.

I guess we'll just have to take our chances.

I do wonder though, if it were a child instead of a cat, that had wandered and been attacked - would the dog be to blame or the child's parents?

Totally different issue I suppose.