to be furious with DD's nursery?

[StepfauxWife]

My 20 month DD goes to nursery full time and I'm very happy with it. But this evening, I took her nappy off before her bath and noticed it was the same brand as the one we use at home. Nursery uses a different brand. The nappy was very heavy and smelly - several wees worth.

I'm starting to think they didn't change her nappy ALL DAY, so she probably had the same nappy on for almost 12 hours. The thought makes me so sad

I've emailed the nursery asking for a discussion. We're on holiday now so I won't see any of the staff for a while. Surely I am not BU and this doesn't happen anywhere else? I'm satisfied with every other aspect of the nursery but this has made me unbelievably angry

I would definately be asking questions. If it wasnt changed all day then that is totally unacceptable and needs to be dealt with.

I could go 12 hrs without changing a disp at home. The difference is that I usually had instant recall with where my baby was with rash risk development, and on other days I could let mine go hours without a nappy to balance out. A nursery envt. has to operate differently, although I know what it's like to get a load of used but dry cloth nappies sent back home & think "You really didn't HAVE to change that, did you?"

I imagine another child potty trained and the parent donated the old nappies to the nursery (hence same brand) my DD2 is similar age and nappy would definitely have leaked after 12hrs!

We change dd's nappy at roughly 7, 11, 2, 5 and 8pm. With an additional change for a poo, which is changed immediately. She's 23 months. She drinks plenty and her nappies are properly wet when we change her.

The posters saying they only change nappies when they are very heavy, ewww! I'd like to make you sit in a heavy wet nappy for a few hours.

I would not be happy with that one bit. If a nursery can forget something as essential as a nappy change, could they also simply 'forget' a meal or a drink too? How would you know?

Yes, seriously! I can count on one hand the number of times I've changed a nappy that wasn't a poo. A quick survey of three friends says they do the same. My four children have never had sore bottoms. Obviously if the nappy was heavy and needed changing then I would change it!

'I'd like to make you sit in a heavy wet nappy for a few hours'

Jeez - already said that if it's heavy I'd change it. But unless they're saturated disposables keep wetness away from the skin. My children drink loads of water and breastfeed on demand as babies. I do think the nursery should have changed the nappy but don't think it's much to get wound up about.

I think furious is an over reaction if this is the first time it's happened.
She probably was in the same nappy all day and while it's not pleasant it hasn't done her any harm. Mention it to nursery so they can be extra vigilant with nappy changes in future.

The nursery should have a record of what time her nappy was changed and by who.

They quite possibly have inaccurate records. I've worked in nurseries and sometimes the system is, for example, that Jane will be changing the 10am nappies and Fiona will be writing on the board 'nappies changed 10am by Jane'. Jane misses one, Fiona doesn't know that. Or the people in the toddler room send all their sleepers down to the sleep room without changing them expecting the sleep room staff to do it. There is a break down in communication and the sleep room staff assume that they've already been changed etc. So the sheet could say 'nappy changed 12:30pm by ', but actually has been missed. Or they change the 10am nappies, but forget to write it down at the time. End of the day roles round and they try and remember who did what. They might remember any poos, but they'll then go 'and the rest were wet', so the record says 'DD changed at 10am, wet nappy', but she was actually missed etc. etc.

It's not a common occurrence and it's not likely that she was missed, but it's certainly well within the realm of possibility. And so is missing a drink or a meal unfortunately! And you probably wouldn't know, that's the problem.

littlejohnny's approach is fine if your baby poos a lot, it seems like they vary quite a bit on this. I can see why people whose babies poo once daily or less might think this is a little grim, but a lot poo several times a day.

One nappy change at 4pm? That's disgraceful why isn't she changed more often.

I would be cross and having a quiet word to find out what happened.

I thought littlejohnny's approach was perfectly normal. You don't change a nappy at the first sign of a wee, do you? I'd wait til it was looking quite full. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

Modern disposables are very good, but I can't imagine a 20 month old weeing so little over 12 hours that a single nappy could hold it all. They're usually doing the sort of big wee that can soak through to clothes by then, too. Mine regularly peed through to her clothes at that age, even when changed every couple of hours, and sometimes needed changing overnight. She did drink lots of water, admittedly, but I don't think an unusual amount. Seems to me a 20 month old would have to be weeing unusually little for a nappy to physically contain a 12 hour day's worth of urine. By all means discuss it with them though.

HoppityVoosh No, I change them when they have done a wee.
Absorbent or not, I wouldn't want to be sitting in a piss soaked nappy, I wouldn't wait until it was full.

I doubt it was unchanged as it's pretty noticeable. An unchanged nappy goes weird and lumpy as the gel in them carries on expanding.

But how do you know when they've done a wee? One wee doesn't soak a nappy, you'd barely be able to tell unless you take it off and sniff it.

And I didn't mean full as in bursting at the seams. Just more than one pees worth.

A very delayed conclusion to this thread in case anyone hasn't slept in the last few months. I spoke to the nursery and they had forgotten to change her nappy that day. So my instincts were right. They were very apologetic and we've all moved on. The relevant member of staff has moved to a (potty trained!) room.

Wtf? How did they forget?

I know, woo. Apparently the record sheet hadn't been changed from the day before. So it had been armed that her nappy had been changed when it hadn't.

DD wouldn't have been the only one affected (unless one of them had done a poo).

I now make a point of checking the sheet every evening to see if it has been properly filled out.

It's good that they have at least owned up to their mistake and made steps to correct it, though of course it's not great that it happened in the first place.

I had an incident with nursery, and I just got complete dismissal when I raised it. I removed my dc and made a complaint to Ofsted.

In these situations it's not so much the error, but what they have done afterwards to prevent a repeat.