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Send my friend to school: do world leaders need handbags?

27 replies

loveableshoulder · 28/04/2015 19:55

Has anyone done the Send My Friend to School session this year? You cut out a 2d 'world leader', colour, add your message to world leaders about the importance of Education for all children, then accessorise.

Some templates are male, some female. Accessories available are: microphone, glasses, speech bubble, briefcase and handbag.

I'm just not sure the handbag should
be there. All my students - two classes - agreed this would be for female leaders. So the men get a briefcase, signifying work, gravitas, and the women get...a handbag. When I pointed this out, many of the girls said that handbags are nice; they are for keeping your purse in. When I said that I like handbags too but could keep a purse in my briefcase, they didn't understand :(

AIBU, or should SMFTS have stuck to briefcases for all?

don't get me started on the glasses

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loveableshoulder · 28/04/2015 19:56

Urge! AIBU in thinking that they should have ditched the handbag?

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madreloco · 28/04/2015 19:59

Why the implication that powerful women can't like a good handbag? I don't like briefcases personally, that has no bearing at all on my status.
Also, the men can use them too for all anyone cares.

VikingVolva · 28/04/2015 20:00

Well, if one of the leaders looks like HMQ or Mrs a Thatcher then handbag required. 'Hand bagging' became a by-word for what a powerful leader did to get her way because of the strength of that female PM.

I suggest you teach her the strong message.

EatShitDerek · 28/04/2015 20:00

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AuntieStella · 28/04/2015 20:03

from BBC website: I was hand bagged by Mrs Thatcher. The handbag, an icon of the era

Eigg · 28/04/2015 20:06

Well I'm certainly not a world leader but I carry both a handbag and a briefcase to work each day.

Why can't it be both? Or neither? Presumably it's a choice.

PacificDogwood · 28/04/2015 20:10

Well, personally I hate and detest handbags, so if I were world leader I'd make sure that all women's clothing was designed with usable pockets FFS Grin

Sorry, not what you're asking.
I dunno - lots of people like handbags, there was a fashion for 'man bags' not that long ago.
IME many high-powered women carry a briefcase AND a power handbag.
I think having the handbag there is ok tbh but I do see the problem you are pointing out.

loveableshoulder · 28/04/2015 20:13

I suppose I'm a little depressed that the girls just thought 'nice handbag!' I like handbags too, just thought it a little patronising.

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AuntyMag10 · 28/04/2015 20:16

You are massively overthinking it. If you get to the stage of being a world leader then you obviously carrying a handbag is insignificant.

Eigg · 28/04/2015 20:17

But loveable what's wring with the girls thinking 'nice handbag'? It in no way prevents them running the world if they so choose.

It's only a problem if all they talked about was the handbag.

I'll admit that I was rather depressed that leaders debate thread on MN was full of comments about the First Minister's shoes.

Blueskybrightstar · 28/04/2015 20:19

What? A chance to talk about world leaders and the task is to accessorize them? Seriously sickening. What a bloody waste.

shewept · 28/04/2015 20:22

Whether its depressing that the girls thought 'ooohh nice hand bag' and whether a female world leader needs/ wants a handbag is 2 different things.

I use a laptop case and a handbag. When i get to the office i am working at, i may briefly leave. have a meeting else where that doesn't require my laptop, maybe lunch and i would take my hand bag.

DD has liked to carry an empty handbag since she was 18 months old and certainly wasn't brought up in a house where there were girl things and boys things. I am not going to ban her from carrying a handbag. Its probably because I did, but since I want to carry a handbag, I do. Now, she is older she also hates keeping things in her pockets.

I don't like the implication that because you have a responsible job, you can't also like handbags.

shewept · 28/04/2015 20:24

Oh and I am a member of a knife and tomahawk throwing club. Carry my knifes to practice.....in my handbag. only one of 2 women who are members the other has a handbag too. Wink

geekymommy · 28/04/2015 20:29

The Queen has one, doesn't she?

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes · 28/04/2015 20:47

hmm I get it OP, the issue isn't about powerful women having nice handbags its just that using them as an accessory in this exercise kinda takes away the serious thought about the roles involved as the discussion gets sidetracked to gender issues around men and womens accessories.... yes bloody shame.

Eigg · 28/04/2015 22:32

Shewept hold on a second!! You're a member if a knife and tomahawk throwing club??

Screw the handbags, I need to know more about that!

PacificDogwood · 28/04/2015 22:36

Yeah, me too Grin
Spill, shewept!!

loveableshoulder · 28/04/2015 22:50

Thanks for your responses, everyone.

shewept I am going to agree with everything you're saying Grin

step has put my thoughts down much clearer than me. But I'll accept that I may well be overthinking this.

Fwiw, I have already twice said that I like handbags too :)

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Eigg · 28/04/2015 22:56

I couldn't wait for shewept I googled. There's a society and world championships and everything!

They basically (with much skill I'm sure) chuck lots of sharp stuff at targets! (Throwing spade anyone!!)

Now, given that I can't throw anything (let alone anything sharp) to save my life this is not a potential new hobby for me but I'd love to spectate.

Also they have an incredibly sweet logo in their website all about the dangers of knife throwing and open toed sandals Shock

loveableshoulder · 28/04/2015 22:58

eigg Shock Grin

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PacificDogwood · 28/04/2015 22:58
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Eigg · 28/04/2015 23:12

I love MN for this kind of stuff. I could have lived my whole life never knowing that we have organised Tomahawk throwing going on in the UK.

PacificDogwood · 28/04/2015 23:15

There should be a prize for The Most Radom Thread Derail Grin

Yy, I love MN for that too - my horizons get widened every day.

I seem to not have gone to bed. And the dog still needs walking. Ah well, at least nobody is throwing a tomahawk at my naked toes

PacificDogwood · 28/04/2015 23:15

Better than disorganised tomahawk throwing IMO...

Eigg · 28/04/2015 23:21

Sorry for the detail loveable

Go walk that poor doggy Pacific. I've paired lots of socks so I'm off to bed thinking about Tomahawks