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AIBU?

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to stop cooking for her?

26 replies

NormaStits · 28/04/2015 17:16

DSD(18) has taken to not coming home for dinner on a reasonably frequent basis, but either not letting me know at all, or not letting me know until I've already started cooking.

A while back we agreed that on weekends I would assume she wasn't eating with us unless she told me in advance. That worked well for a while but then she'd change her mind at the last minute.

I told her after the last time (4 days in a row, where after the second day I just kept the same meal congealing in the fridge waiting for her, to make the point, not that I'd actually make her eat it, more of a 'it's this or toast' thing) that at 18 she is more than capable of fending for herself and I shall not be cooking for her if she doesn't have the common decency to let me know before preparing a meal that she doesn't want any. I gave her one last chance and since (in one week) she's done it again twice.

I know what it's like to be 18 and living at home with parents, you don't always want to do family stuff and that's fine, but I am sick of being treated with such little thought. I don't mind her not eating with us, it's the lack of notice, so food gets wasted and sometimes, because of her pickiness, I've picked a meal specifically with her tastes in mind when really I'd have preferred to make something else.

I don't think my ultimatum is unreasonable, I was sorting out all my own meals at that age, well before actually. I think I've been rather tolerant up until now. However, DH says I am being harsh and I should try to remember what it was like to be young and be making last minute plans, but it's not him who is cooking meal after meal for no gratitude.

So AIBU to tell an 18yo to start fending for themselves?

OP posts:
flora717 · 28/04/2015 17:18

YANBU. 18 yo should really be planning ahead to a meal, she's managed coursework before I take it?!

CountingThePennies · 28/04/2015 17:19

Yanbu

Sounds like she hasnt been brought up to have consideration for others

finnbarrcar · 28/04/2015 17:19

Yanbu. I hate wasted food.

MaidOfStars · 28/04/2015 17:23

YANBU at all.

A while back we agreed that on weekends I would assume she wasn't eating with us unless she told me in advance. That worked well for a while but then she'd change her mind at the last minute

You didn't really follow through, did you? Her changing her mind at the last minute is NOT letting you know in advance, and you pandering to her has ensured she knows she can continue with her current behaviour.

And you're still cooking meals to her taste, not yours???

At 18 (and any particular needs/issues excluded), she should be more than capable of cooking for herself. Does she pay you board?

Tutt · 28/04/2015 17:25

YANBU but I'm in the same place with my 18 year old and still put him a meal up even after telling him I wouldn't ...PFB!!

DejaVuAllOverAgain · 28/04/2015 17:26

YANBU If your DH is that bothered then he can cook for her.

ArcheryAnnie · 28/04/2015 17:29

YANBU - go back to not cooking for her unless she has informed you in advance, and if she changes her mind at the last moment, point her to the toaster, but do not share the meal you have cooked.

FurryDogMother · 28/04/2015 17:30

I think it would be reasonable to assume you're NOT cooking for her unless she lets you know that she wants to eat with you on any given evening. That way, the ball's in her court - either she lets you know in advance, or fends for herself.

googoodolly · 28/04/2015 17:32

YANBU, if she changes her mind and wants food, she's old enough to make it herself! Sounds like your DH is being a bit too soft - she's 18, not 8!

londonrach · 28/04/2015 17:34

Yanbu.

ollieplimsoles · 28/04/2015 17:35

It was around this time for me I just started making my own meals op, I would tell my mum if I was in for tea or not in the morning before I went out to college, its just courtesy!

ball should be in her court now, not your job to run around after her!

Weathergames · 28/04/2015 17:35

Ah my 17 yr old DS does this or texts me 5 mins before he arrives saying "is it ok if x eats with us" Hmm.

He has to let me know by 4.30 if he's eating with us (at 6.30) and if he doesn't I assume he isn't.

Is hard sometimes though.

catzpyjamas · 28/04/2015 17:39

YANBU, I have this problem too with DSS (20). It's not even just the cooking, it's the shopping too. I buy on the assumption that he is coming and then he texts at the last minute or doesn't show up. 4 nights of the week I am only cooking for three then I buy enough for four of us at weekends and a quarter goes to waste or to DH's waist
I tried saying I'd presume he'd be here for food unless I knew otherwise but it didn't work and if I wait to hear that he is coming, I don't have time to cook as he never texts before he finishes work at 6pm!!

So sorry, no advice but I do sympathise Flowers

KillmeNow · 28/04/2015 17:40

I would not be cooking for her unless she is actually present when cooking starts. I would however make sure I have stuff in the freezer that she can easily make if she decides to join you later but otherwise no cooking meals specially for her.

NormaStits · 28/04/2015 17:43

CountingthePennies I really don't know where this attitude has come from, we have always taught them to have consideration for others so I don't know why she is being like this. The others are all far more considerate, tidy (outwith their own rooms!), helpful and genuinely easy to live with.

MaidofStars that's why I don't feel it's unreasonable to stop now, I've already given her a chance and she's fucked it up. Because it worked well then slipped, I gave a reminder in the hope it would stick but clearly it isn't. All of our kids know I'm not the type to say things I don't mean so I have no intention of backing down.

As for cooking to her tastes, I try to accomodate all of our children's likes and dislikes into our meals, to some extent. The others only have one or two things they can't stand having on the plate so I'm generally happy to work with that, but she's just got more and more picky recently. One the occasions when I do want to cook something she doens't like, I do tell her to find something else in the cupboard, but to be honest, I could easily end up doing that every night, so picky has she become. Which is why sometimes I try to accommodate her because otherwise every meal would be somethign she didn't like.

She doesn't pay board as she's in college with a very low paying PT job but she doesn't get pocket money/clothes/phone credit now, we agreed that her job replaced that, as her 'contribution'.

I was slightly gobsmacked when he said I was being unreasonable, I thought I'd been plenty lenient with her!

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Weathergames · 28/04/2015 17:47

Mind you I cooked dinner the other weekend for some friends when the kids were away.

Pre dinner drinks for at 7, eating dinner at 8.

One of my friends turned up at 9 (she lives around the corner) as another friend had turned up and "made her" share a bottle of wine.

We were on dessert when she arrived. I didn't say anything (so bloody British!) but I was really pissed off!!

YouMakeMyHeartSmile · 28/04/2015 18:48

YANBU. My mum had moved out and my dad worked away when I was 18 so I fended for myself completely with regards to meals. I would have been ecstatic if someone had cooked for me! She is old enough to let you know what she's doing or to cook for herself.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes · 28/04/2015 19:13

my rules for DS are, you want dinner I need to know by 5.30 before I start cooking, dinner is at 7.00 unless negotiated differently with all those partaking. If its a suitable meal to save and there are leftovers by all means heat them later or tomorrow but not if I have earmarked them for my lunch / dinner. Oh and if you choose to feed yourself at a different time, add to the shopping list anything you use up, if I am in at the time just check I haven;t got plans for whatever it is you are going to cook... took a while but seems to be working.

Summerisle1 · 28/04/2015 19:16

YANBU. I quite understand why 18 year olds don't want to be home for tea every night but it is only courteous to realise that you'll have to do your own cooking if you aren't prepared to turn up at teatime! You really aren't running a restaurant here.

By 18 my dcs accepted that mealtimes were at a certain time. I'd cook for all or several of us provided I had notice earlier that day. No notice = come home and sort yourself something to eat.

shewept · 28/04/2015 19:28

Yanbu and if your dh thinks it is unreasonable, then he can cook for her. If he isn't home in time to cook each night, he can make her meal th night before for her to warm up.

TwoOddSocks · 28/04/2015 19:30

YANBU. If you're feeling generous next time your making something freezable she likes chuck an individual portion in the freezer and she can just defrost as needed. That said why can't she just do herself some pasta when she gets home?

olgaga · 28/04/2015 21:04

YANBU!

By 18 she should be able to sort out a meal for herself. Pasta, soup, eggs, cheese toastie etc. Store cupboard/raid the fridge whatever.

Like a PP I'd tell your DH to rustle up something for her if he's concerned.

Mistigri · 28/04/2015 21:15

She can cook for herself. If my 13 year old can prepare most of her own meals an 18 year old certainly can!

Is she at school, working, or a student? Depending on her income I might expect her to contribute to food bills too.

NormaStits · 28/04/2015 21:27

Well, I had a nice reasonable conversation with her. She was a bit affronted at first, 'but I don't do it on purpose!' etc but I explained how it made me feel and she accepted it. We're going to play it by ear re the type of food she'll have available until we've got a system. Twoooddsocks that's a good suggestion re the spare portions, I do individual portions in the freezer anyway so I think I'll make a 'help yourself' drawer in the freezer to separate that good from things I have plans for.

mistigri She's at college and we don't expect a contribution yet but will next year if she stays at home & works (uni is up in the air).

All well & good, until I told DH: 'oh this is ridiculous, how petty'. Grr. Aside from the issue of her being inconsiderate I think it's a good step towards independence. I was responsible for all my own meals at 15!

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Flingmoo · 28/04/2015 21:29

Why is communication such an issue for her? Can't believe it's been 7 years since I was 18 but it feels like yesterday, I always kept my parents updated on my mobile, if I wasn't sure if I'd make it home for dinner they'd often leave a shop bought pizza or ready meal in the fridge for when I did get back.

Who pays her phone bill..? If she doesn't use it to keep you updated then I hope you're not paying for it Wink

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