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I have an interview finally through an agency but I have a query can anyone help

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Mommypoppins · 22/04/2015 20:14

Ok been told the hourly rate but not sure of the exact hours so it's either 37.5 or 40 hours a week , I would need to do 13 weeks and if both parties are happy I would go permanent my query is the salary is more than the the hourly rate over the year by £500 pounds so when do I discuss the salary.

Do I discuss with the agency when I see them or wait until I have gone to interview hopefully if I get get the job I would work 13 weeks then prove myself in that time , then discuss the salary and let the business and agency work it out.

Any advice would be great, I have been out of work for three months am taking a pay cut but it's local there is free parking and other perks.

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TiredButFine · 22/04/2015 20:17

Ask the agency- the rate might go up after the 13 weeks are done and you get the perm position

Mommypoppins · 22/04/2015 20:21

They said what the salary was its £500 more , just thought if I got the job proved myself we could go from there.

Do I ask the agency before the interview, as we will be discussing the role in more detail.

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Ktay · 22/04/2015 20:22

Congratulations and good luck for the interview. I should have thought you would be fine to discuss these questions with the agency before interview (I say this as an ex in-house recruiter, although this was 10 years ago).

Are you using a 37.5 or 40h (sounds long - are you including a lunch break?) working week as the basis of your calculations where you've arrived at a £500 difference?

Mommypoppins · 22/04/2015 20:29

Yes I'm using either 30 minutes or 1 hour lunch excluding that from the hourly salary then Im x by 52 weeks for the annual salary.

I'm also using uk desk demon to work out the salary on the salary they said also so I know how much tax I would pay and how much I would take home.

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monkeysox · 22/04/2015 20:30

Is the difference the agency fee?

Mommypoppins · 22/04/2015 20:34

No it's not Monkey maybe I'm working it out wrong.

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caroldecker · 22/04/2015 20:38

What about holiday - the salaried role also has 5 weeks off paid.

NotAllItsCrackedUpToBe · 22/04/2015 20:59

In effect the agency can pay you what they want to during the 13 weeks that you will be working through them. That is unless they have agreed with the end employer that they will pay you the same as the annual salary you will earn if you successfully transfer to the permanent role.
Just check the salary with the agency.
Good luck with your interview!

Mommypoppins · 22/04/2015 21:05

Ok thanks Notall I will check the salary with the agency when I see them.

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Mommypoppins · 22/04/2015 21:05

Thank you everyone.

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raawwhh · 22/04/2015 21:16

Without you giving more information it would be difficult to provide a more accurate response. One of the following could be happening - which you really need to ascertain as it will really affect your job security.

  1. The Agency are putting you on to their books for a temp to perm transfer. This means that you will be employed by the agency. At the end of the 13 weeks the client will then take you on permanently. I suspect this is the case owing to the hourly vs. salary rate. The £500 difference equates to ~24p an hour so is almost an equivalent amount. If this is the case I would ask why you can't go directly to the client - realistically you won't have anymore 'rights' but temp to perm is usually used because the client doesn't want to pay a fee all at once or is very very unsure about a candidate.

IIRC the agency workers regulations state that you must be remunerated in the equivalent manner to which you would if you were to have be employed directly by the client. I can't find the quote atm as I don't have access to the relevant docs but by law they have to pay you the same whether you are going through the agency or not.

  1. You are going directly to the client and the 12 weeks is a probationary period. Some companies will initially employ people on an hourly rate temporary contract and make it permanent on salary with a pay rise when the probationary period is completed.

In both instances please speak to the agency and seek clarification of your position ASAP. I personally (as a Recruitment Consultant) would never ever leave a job to take on a new role in the first set of circumstances as if it doesn't work out you are never technically employed by the client. You will also only qualify for holiday under the agency's holiday allowance (if there is any?).

Mommypoppins · 22/04/2015 21:35

Raw thanks for the advice I have been told a hourly wage but not told if a 40 hour week or 37.5 I will know when I go to see the agency, this makes a slight difference in the weekly pay not sure how that works annually.

I was told the annual salary which I was trying to work out after tax as well, but not sure how to work out.

They want me to do the 13 weeks and if I'm happy I would go permanent, and if the agency is happy they pay a fee and pay me the salary.

I'm not working at present but on several agencies books so if offered a temp to perm job the company would want me to interview first and do any other paper work for the agency if successful.

I'm with one agency where I could start next week without an interview as I have done my paper work ,my aim is to get a permanent job so I will have to not temp next week now and instead wait till I have the interview for this position with the company.

Not sure what else I can do, I will talk to agency though when I go to see them.

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raawwhh · 22/04/2015 21:47

Its sounds as if you are defiantly on a temp to perm. If you aren't working then that isn't so much of an issue.

With regards to the pay. IIRC you will be entitled to get the same hourly that you would if you were employed directly. As they have told you this it's easy to work out.

However, I would ask why you can't go directly to the client as you will not be guaranteed the hours in the first 12 weeks - so if they are quiet they could but your hours and leave you out of pocket. Also, the holiday thing (as in previous post)

If they want you on the temp to perm to judge suitability then the agency need to work in a rebate scheme that would be equivalent to the fee they would get from you doing the temp to perm. To be honest, its less faff for all involved - it gives the client a false sense of security to do a temp to perm, but any Rec Con with a good relationship with their client should be able to ease those fears.

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