To rewash dd's clothes at 60?

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I have stayed up late to wait for the washing to finish which was all 7 month old DD's clothes. After it was finished I noticed that my DP had turned the washing machine down at 30. The wash included a very poo covered vest. I usually wash her clothes at 50. AIBU to rewash all the clothes at 50, particularly as there was a pooey vest in the wash? Very annoyed at DP for turning the washing machine down. So tired that I have lost all sense of perspective.

Tumble dryers are a hazard -usually fluff related but also because like washing machines and dishwashers they are complex - heating elements, water pumps. motors, sensors, timers -all things that could develop a fault. I was told unless it was designed and is essential to be left on turn it off before you go to bed.
Electrical wiring in walls etc -unless it is old or badly done -won't cause a problem unless you overload sockets - force the cables in the walls to carry more power than they are designed to by using extensions/adaptors etc with lots of high drain things plugged in.
(In our case rented flat and the electrics were a bodge job - I could see the ceiling wires for the flat below from where the floor boards had gone - joined together with tape etc -sadly we didn't have the money to pursue the agent through the courts for compensation)

Gobsmacked at some to the attitude re fire! "Thats what smoke alarms are for" really? So you think that in the middle of the night, if the smoke alarm goes off, it it just the same as in the day? We had a bungalow burn down in a matter of minutes near us, in the day, and people were in the house (all got out safely), they lost everything in the house! Why would anybody risk that? Washers and dryers apparently the biggest causes!

money.aol.co.uk/2013/09/18/washing-machine-biggest-fire-ris

money.aol.co.uk/2013/09/18/washing-machine-biggest-fire-risk/ sorry this link should work!

People who are blase about smoke alarms and fires should Google a few fire videos. By the time the smoke alarms go off, the place is often really on fire. Like '1 minute to flash over' on fire. Flash over kills fire fighters in their equipment so you aren't surviving that.

Washing machines have moving parts so are more dangerous than fridges. It is often the belt/drive that starts fires.

Since working with the fire fighters, I have more, better placed and interconnected smoke alarms. I suggest the people who run appliances at night use these too.

FGS not helping. I have massive anxiety about fire, but literally, if I followed all the guidelines I was not able to live a normal life.

Yes it must be absolutely devastating to have a fire, terrifying, possible loss of life, etc. But when you're actually unable to do anything or go out or ever relax because you're worrying about it, it's way unhelpful to have people faffing about it and insisting you're going to die.

If it's easy enough for you to avoid running the machine at night, then fine. Sensible precaution to take. If you can't avoid it then it doesn't make sense to worry about it. Make sure smoke alarms are checked and you have a fire plan and then try to relax. It's rather unlikely that you'll have a fire anyway. You are fuelling anxiety.

Bertie, of course you can avoid running a machine at night!

Land Rover - how can you avoid running a machine when your out and at night if busy? Ie today house was empty 7.30am-7pm. Now in but everyone will be in bed by 11pm latest. That's 4hours max to have all washing machines, dishwashers, tumble dryers, etc etc on. Our dishwasher takes 3hrs and we haven't even eaten yet so it will go on after dinner around 9.30pm earliest

No, landrover. YOU can avoid running a machine at night. That does not mean it is reasonably practical for everybody.

It's very difficult for me not to run appliances at night. Both DH and I work full time. We're usually back by 5.45-6pm but we like to spend some time with DD before she goes to bed at 7.30-8pm and we go to bed about 10pm often 9.30pm (we're both very active so tired early). That gives us about 2 hours to run dishwasher, washing machine and dryer. I put a load of washing on as soon as I get in so can mostly avoid the tumble dryer being left when we've gone to bed but often the dishwasher's still going when I go to bed because it takes ages.

We don't have a housekeeper so I don't know when else we're supposed to do these things. Certainly not in the morning when we're all trying to get out of the house and I can't leave it all till the weekend so we take our chances and hope nothing happens. House fires are relatively rare anyway. I've only known one persons house burn down in almost 40 years and that was caused by a candle.

I'm not exactly sneering at the recommendation to use less energy, Archery - more commenting on the probably hypocrisy as many of those who gasp in horror at using hotter washes than 30 degrees probably also have showers (oddly enough, also using precious resources) more than once a day.

This is ridiculous, Thumbwitches. First of all, most people (unless they do very heavy physical or dirty work) don't have more than one shower a day. And secondly, it isn't "hypocrisy" to talk about how best to reduce your energy use. Nobody can use zero energy. That doesn't disqualify them from discussing the areas where it is easy to use less energy with few consequences.

I am sick of people who react to every suggestion re reducing energy use with "OMG I bet you went on a bus once! That uses petrol - YOU HYPOCRITE". It is a good thing - not a bad one - if people start to reduce energy even when - especially when - they can't be perfect little environmentalists in every part of their lives.

Capricorn - you can get these things completely ready -powder in etc - and then you just need to press a button to turn them on when you walk through the door/get up ...no hassle.
My bog standard wash takes 50min and then about 1 hr in the tumble (although I rarely use the tumble) - you can easily do a load after you get home - even 2. Or stick the wet washing in the tumble and turn it on when you get up in the morning. (I have partially dried clothes in the tumble, turned it off and back on when I got up/got home - not as energy efficient and takes slightly longer as it has to heat up again but as long as it isn't too dry when you stop it they don't crease).
My dishwasher takes 2hr 15 min - so depending on when you get up/leave you can stick it on in the morning finished before you leave or as soon as you get home and buy more crockery...it can be done (I've done it!)

Yes Archery. I've noticed that on the threads about towel washing the people who have ten showers a day with a freshly washed towel for each shower, always say "...but you're accessing mumsnet on your phone or a PC. That uses energy! You're no better than I am with all my showers and towels!"

They don't seem to realise they are using the internet as well as the other stuff. They are consuming more energy in total.

Such a stupid argument - you can't use no energy at all so might as well use as much as possible!

I haven't washed anything at over 30 for years, still alive (as are my clothes)

" still alive (as are my clothes)"

Alive with what??

Artandco, I do honestly get your point, but am slightly concerned that your dishwasher takes 3 hours! Would you not consider hand washing your pots occasionally? I thought mine took an age at one hour!

www.timescolonist.com/opinion/blogs/wanderings-1.782643/why-newer-dishwashers-run-for-an-alarmingly-long-time-1.1155465
Interestingly enough Art, I found this to answer my question. Had no idea, but isn't it strange!

My washing machine takes 2:38 for a cotton wash (most of my washing) and the dishwasher takes 3:05, so on a normal working day i am not up or in long enough to use them in the mornings or before bed.

long cycles (dw/washer) use much less water (and therfore energy) to run.
if you look up the manual of applances you can see the energy consumption of the different cycles.
yes our d/w takes nearly three hours but uses only 9 liters of water. that's one sink full of water. considering how many dishes can be washed at one time...
d/w is switched on after dinner, so is finished by the tme we go to bed.

www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/04/why-does-my-new-dishwasher-take-so-long/index.htm
And another interesting article, but apparently you can still do a wash in half an hour in reality! I think we are all being conned!

My dishwasher does a fast wash in 52 mins, which seems fine. Washer takes 1 hour 15. The articles above are interesting though! My dishwasher is noisy though, so I couldn't bear it on for 3 hours, would drive me potty! There must be a balance though between water used, and the electricity on for 3 hours.

And apparently, it helps to run a tap nearby to get to the correct temp first! Oh and some manufacturers suggest we should only scrape dishes first, not rinse. Ive learnt something new today!

land I don't think that is true for most dishwashers - like washing machines a lot are now cold fill only -I know mine is. Running the hot tap would achieve nothing but waste hot water.
(I looked at plumbing mine in to the hot water supply ...thought it must be more efficient -but apparently they do a cold rinse first -so you would be using hot water unnecessarily and also you could make eg mash potato bake onto to things).
As to not rinsing - as the instructions state I did just scrape
BUT my (expensive) 5 yo dishwasher recently wouldn't drain. After a fair bit of googling and elimination I found out the most likely cause - a part inside was clogged.
I found a sealed unit that was full of gross orange fatty gunk - it took me days to clear it out (repair men would normally just replace it - but a new one would have £40+ and then it that wasn't the problem and I had to pay for a repair man and more parts it would probably be cheaper to just buy a new machine).
It has this part to make the machine super water efficient (reuses the cold rinse water if it isn't too dirty). I clean the filters you are supposed to regularly - even do the odd hot maintenance clean wash -and it was still gunked up. (Don't think the cleaning washes did any good - hot/cold water/vinegar/soda/ bleach/salt all failed to clear it...what did was drying it out and then rinsing/shaking/poking where I could reach -had to repeat several times). I now rinse anything that is really dirty...and plan to check it every year or so before it gets so bad.

Running a nearby hot tap is pointless for most of today's appliances.

Most dishwashers and washing machines these days are designed to be cold fill only, and there is only one inlet hose, which should be attached to a cold water pipe. Running a hot tap would therefore have no effect at all.