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To tell you you can send your form off today for postal voting

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Girlwhowearsglasses · 20/04/2015 13:30

registering for postal voting ends tomorrow - so you can still send it off today.

registering to vote in person ends today

Here's the form

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chocoluvva · 20/04/2015 19:56

Definitely NBU.

I heard that on the radio today - didn't know that until I heard it.

rallytog1 · 20/04/2015 20:15

Does anyone know - does the local authority need to have received the application by tomorrow, or will they accept a postmark/proof of postage showing it was posted in time? Got my dates mixed up.

ilovesooty · 20/04/2015 20:33

It needs to arrive by 5.00pm tomorrow.

DevaDiva · 20/04/2015 20:46

YANBU I've been hassling reminding people all day!

You can scan it in and email it in most cases. (Tiny scan app on phone of you don't have a scanner)

CinderToffee · 20/04/2015 20:54

Just to be clear: if you are already registered to vote, you have until 5pm tomorrow to change your method of voting and request a postal vote. If you are not registered at all, you need to be registered by midnight. An unregistered person cannot register tomorrow for a postal vote.

Girlwhowearsglasses · 20/04/2015 21:02

Ah ok thanks cinder
I believe you can also ask to vote by proxy after tomorrow (DP hasn't posted the postal vote app I emailed him and will be away)

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rallytog1 · 20/04/2015 21:44

Cheers. I just scanned and emailed my form to my council. Within 5 mins I had a reply from an actual human being confirming it was all in order. I am pretty impressed with all those council employees giving up their GoT watching tonight to deal with the disorganisation of people like me.

CinderToffee · 21/04/2015 10:41

You've got until 28 April to sort out a proxy vote if that's relevant!

scatteroflight · 21/04/2015 11:01

I believe if possible people should avoid using the postal voting system. It has been proven to be massively corrupt and open to abuse. In many constituencies it has been responsible for gerrymandered results.

The more people that use it, the harder it is to make a case for getting rid of it. The corruption of the democratic process is something we must avoid at all costs.

If you think you can vote in person on May 7th then please do so rather than using the postal vote out of convenience.

rallytog1 · 21/04/2015 11:30

It might be open to abuse but that's no reason for getting rid of it. Postal voting enables thousands and thousands of people to exercise their democratic rights, when for a myriad of reasons they're not able to make it to their polling station on the given day. Are you really saying all those people shouldn't be allowed to cast their vote, when postal voting actually makes it possible for more people to vote and abolishing it would reduce the number of people who vote?

By all means improve the system so that it is less open to abuse, but arguing to get rid of it altogether is ridiculous.

scatteroflight · 21/04/2015 12:04

Rally - Postal voting "on demand" was introduced in 2001. Widespread abuse has ensued. Abuse of the democratic system is extremely grave. Once people lose trust in democracy they will seek alternative means to have their voices heard. It isn't something that can be dismissed as just part and parcel of having a more convenient way of voting.

There could be ways of tightening up the process but so far the Electoral Commission has not acted. If people can avoid using it then they really ought to.

Just one of many, many articles on the web about the abuse of the postal voting system....

www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/apr/05/politics.localgovernment

"A senior judge made a scathing attack on the postal voting system yesterday, condemning the government for complacency in the face of fraud which would disgrace a "banana republic".

Richard Mawrey QC, presiding over a special election court in Birmingham, warned that there were no realistic systems in place to detect or prevent postal voting fraud at the general election. "Until there are, fraud will continue unabated," he said

....In a damning judgment which ran to 192 pages, he said the system for registering postal vote applications was "hopelessly insecure". There was no way of checking whether the person who had applied for the vote was the legitimate voter.

Postal ballots were sent out in ordinary mail and were clearly identifiable. "Short of writing "STEAL ME" on the envelopes, it is hard to see what more could be done to ensure their coming into the wrong hands," he said.

There had been "widespread theft" of postal votes, either en masse from corrupt postal workers or on a smaller scale from the letterboxes of householders, the court heard.

A lack of effective policing meant that fraud was compounded, Mr Mawrey said. Returning officers had neither the powers, resources or authority to investigate suspicious applications for postal votes, and the police were poorly trained to detect it."

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