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To think Nicola Sturgeon should do her day job

75 replies

Bilberry · 20/04/2015 13:12

she seems to spending her whole time campaigning at the moment so people might overlook the fact that her parliament has not been dissolved and she is being paid to run the Scottish Government.

Surely Salmon is up to doing his own campaigning?

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chocoluvva · 20/04/2015 20:13

And this 'Scotland doesn't get the government it votes for' rubbish - Scotland isn't a single entity and it's population is only 9% of the UK so to expect to have a big influence on the government of the Uk is unreasonable. The claim used to be that Scotland predominantly voted labour but still got conservative governments. Em, except when we had labour governments!

a fairer and more just society was their indy cry - but only for the people of Scotland - the rest of the UK would continue to suffer under the leadership of the old boys to the delight of the SNP. They encouraged yes votes as a protest vote! How irresponsible.

Jackieharris · 20/04/2015 20:14

I'm very confused about the snp at the moment. I thought that we couldn't vote for them in England yet there was an article in the DM blush stating that there could be an snp/labour coalition. How can there be a coalition with the snp in an English parliament if nobody in England can vote snp?
Do Scottish people vote in the English general election? I really don't understand it.

^^ This is why politics should be on the national curriculum. It scares me how little some lots? Of people understand about our political system.

Shock Shock

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 20/04/2015 20:19

I dislike the SNP and dislike nationalism in any form, but to suggest we went through 'hell' in the referendum is ridiculous and takes away from any logical argument.

Christinayangstwistedsister · 20/04/2015 20:20

The uk would only suffer under the old boys If they voted for them

chocoluvva · 20/04/2015 20:28

The snp claims that the mainstay of the three biggest parties are predominantly part of the old boys' network and work to further their interests and the interests of the city (and the SE of England)at the expense of the people of scotland and that the only way the Scottish electorate will ever get a more democratic and less corrupt government is to vote for independence. That's outrageous and utterly lacking in ambition IMO.

They would have happily ripped Scotland out of the UK even if half the scottish electorate didn't want it.

cleanmyhouse · 20/04/2015 21:50

khaleejikat - is your real name Kezia Dugdale?

Ubik1 · 20/04/2015 22:21

"Ripped Scotland out of the UK."

I think Ed and Dave rather wish the SNP had done that Grin

HirplesWithHaggis · 20/04/2015 22:39

Nah, that's not Kez, even she's not that blinkered. Creepy Jim's been showing signs of stress today, though... Grin

Ubik1 · 20/04/2015 22:40

Ha ha I thought that too

weefeefaefife · 20/04/2017 23:50

Khaleejikat judging by your hatred of NS im presuming your the same Khaleejikat that made the headlines in the Courier recently www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/409052/tory-candidate-fife-council-election-previously-called-nicola-sturgeon-drooling-hag/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime · 21/04/2017 00:01

The SNP are a single-issue protest party who are incapable of actually running a country.

YANBU

BackforGood · 21/04/2017 00:02

It does strike me though, that, as Leader of the Scottish Parliament, she shouldn't spend so much of her time trying to call another referendum so soon after the "once in a lifetime" referendum in which Scottish people voted not to leave. That sounds like she doesn't really respect democracy to me. A few years of concentrating on the issues that are important to the Scottish people, and using the powers that were hard fought for and have now been granted to the Scottish Parliament, is, I suspect what most people in Scotland would prefer, whichever way they voted.

Turisas · 21/04/2017 01:41

This thread was from the last general election...

PerspicaciaTick · 21/04/2017 01:57

Bliss - a zombie thread where nothing at all has changed in the two years since it was started.

LellyMcKelly · 21/04/2017 02:23

English general election. Where to even start with that? Four countries have elections for the BRITISH general elections. Northern Ireland and Wales have their own parties as well. The world does not revolve around England.

Tapandgo · 21/04/2017 02:36

choco and Khalee - both of you seem to be floating around in some deranged hysterical parallel universe. Seriously - get a grip! You don't like the SNP - so don't vote for them - but you can't deny they are the democratically elected choice of the majority of Scottish voters. Your grasp of the political views of the SNP is so limited it's embarrassing and your 'ranting' suggests you've got more than one screw loose,

PerspicaciaTick · 21/04/2017 02:37

Still a Zombie thread.

PhilODox · 21/04/2017 02:37

Funny how all the other parts of the UK get local representation though, lelly, except the English.

ClopySow · 21/04/2017 07:18

Well one can only assume that's because the British Parliament mainly represents England.

If there were some benefit to having a separate England only parliament, they'd do it, but they don't need to because it already exists.

I know, zombie.

helpmesusan · 21/04/2017 07:21

Fair game - how can Scotland have a Conservative government when we only have one MP?

Same prob, different perspective

helpmesusan · 21/04/2017 07:22

I should say - that is the case now. A few years back, in 1997, Tories didn't even a single Mp from Scotland.

helpmesusan · 21/04/2017 07:23

How tedious, a zombie thread.

Fluffyears · 21/04/2017 08:09

I read it and then saw my own comments...eek confused! Stupid zombie

UpAwfYerSeatWeeNippy · 21/04/2017 17:45

Yes zombie thread. It has been resurrected by a yesser, can't see why really, but to answer the Ops question.

Yes she needs to get on with the day job.

The 2014 campaign was a nightmare. And cause conflicts within families which still have not healed. The yes side hijacked our national flag and various other things which are part of our culture for their narrow nationalistic agenda and have attempted to villify our closest neighbour and trading partner... The rest of the UK.

Scotland voted in 2014 to stay in the UK fully aware of the upcoming UK referendum on Europe and the remain in the UK side won by a margin of 10%.

Shortly afterwards Alex salmon was on the TV (sky) threatening us with a universal declaration of independence.

Nichols sturgeon insisted that there would not be another referendum unless 60% of people wanted one. She said a vote for the snP was not a vote for another referendum.
She gained a lot of seats during that vote.

Before the eu referendum she started up again telling scottish people that if the UK voted to leave the Europe then there would be another referendum.

Unionists voted in high numbers to remain in Europe to avoid anther Indy ref. Sadly the rest of the UK voted out and all our tactical remain votes were used against us by the snp to indicate that our southern neighbours were all racists and we voted more for remain so we are somehow "better" and therefore we were being dragged out of Europe against our will.

Within a few hours she was all over the TV telling us another referendum was inevitable.

She tells Theresa May she has "no mandate" and was not elected regularly and uses her high number of seats to claim she has a mandate for indyref despite telling us a vote for snp was not one for another referendum.

Hundreds of thousands of people in scotland sign a petition to say no to a second referendum.

The one in support of another one does not gain such support.

She squeezes the vote through Hollywood for another referendum by promising the greens concessions on land reforms. The green party manifesto said they would not agree to a referendum unless it was demanded by the people and that they would not do it for party political advantage, but they broke this pledge.

T May says no they can't have a referendum as now is not the time as the people of Scotland do not yet know the outcome of brexit.

The pm calls a general election to confirm her mandate. Sturgeon complains and calls her an opportunist Hmm

UpAwfYerSeatWeeNippy · 21/04/2017 18:00

Sturgeon constituency is a slum and her local constituents have been posting missing posters all around the neighbourhood.

Education has fallen to terrible standards under the snp and they have done nothing about the collapsing school buildings and are putting children at risk.

Public services are in crisis and our economy is tanking under the snp while it is growing in the rest of the UK.

They have not passed one single price of legislation in a year at Hollywood.

All they do is gleefully pass on UK cuts, when they have the means and resources to tailor things to suit the needs of scots. They have not explained their massive government understand last year.

All they do is vilify Westminster. Make life difficult for scottish people in the hope that they fall for it and vote independence out of desperation.

They make out the conservatives are a big bogeyman out to get them.. Thatcher made mistakes, but she is long gone. I wish scotland would wake up. They are being led up the garden path with this one.

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