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people who aren't very good at their job and just like to push blame to others because of their lack of skill / knowledge wwyd

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medona · 16/04/2015 09:36

Half of me thinks I should make an effort to try to get them to be better at their job.

The other half thinks I CBA especially as management isn't great and I'm only here 3 days a week with a forfilling life outside of work.

I've got the blame several times for something that was their fault, but they didn't bother to read stuff so just publicly pushed all the blame to me. If I was to do the same to him he would throw a strop, so I kinda let it slide and laugh at him. But over time it does get annoying.

He's not great at the job he does, without any previous experience for all he does now. Its a small company that's grown rapidly so all of a sudden he has a team when lots of the people below him are far more skilled, so he's constantly trying to exert authority.

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Sparklingbrook · 16/04/2015 09:46

How long has he been there?

medona · 16/04/2015 09:54

He's been there 5 years, I'm relatively new. I think he thinks he's good at his job, as do management. But he wouldn't last 5 mins in many companies.

I've already had to ask management to have a word with him as he once started shouting and swearing at me when on one else what around and has sent stupid messages ALL IN CAPS WITH LOADS OF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Kind of behaving like a spoilt teenager, and a rude spoilt one.

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sneepy · 16/04/2015 10:05

Document and keep every single communication from him. After every phone call and meeting, send an email recapping what was discussed. Cc everyone on every email. Then when he tries to drop you in it, you have evidence.

blueshoes · 16/04/2015 10:24

Can you find a way to copy others on those messages in CAPs. Would he be so stupid as to put it in email.

blueshoes · 16/04/2015 10:32

It's a difficult one. He sounds dreadful. I don't know if you can suck it up but I could not and would be looking to leave, subject to how it would look on my CV.

As an exit strategy, definitely document. Start escalating it up and up through HR/management and you might be able to get a pay-out with all your evidence. If it is a small industry and word gets round, consider whether you would prefer to cut your losses and leave quietly instead.

limitedperiodonly · 16/04/2015 12:00

People like him always know how bad they are and you and his more experienced team represent a constant threat.

I've no idea about upper management. It might be that he talks a good talk and they have little idea themselves what the job entails - especially if it's a part of the company's rapid expansion. Maybe his boss didn't want a competent deputy snapping at his or her heels.

sneepy's idea of the email recap of his instructions is good. If he replies and says you've got it wrong, then no harm done. If he doesn't reply you can go ahead and if it goes wrong you can show that you asked.

Be prepared for it to get bumpy. Flowers

limitedperiodonly · 16/04/2015 12:15

I'd stick to cc-ing relevant people only. That might be easier for me than for you, because I have to co-ordinate with other departments, so it looked like I was just keeping everyone informed like a good girl rather than gathering evidence.

The thing about mass cc-ing is that people usually delete irrelevant ones or get irritated by them. It also gives him a chance to whinge that you're telling tales. I know you're not but if management like him, they might be sympathetic to his story.

ilovesooty · 16/04/2015 12:18

Perhaps you could offer to mentor him? After all, you could offer to bring your tact skills and diplomacy to the role to effect an improvement in his performance.

IFinishedTheBiscuits · 16/04/2015 12:24

I work with someone like that. Had thought she was assertive but I had assertiveness training and realise she's just aggressive.
Had a meeting yesterday where two colleagues and myself took two hours of shit because her project is failing. Despite me writing a paper evaluating our contribution and how we could make our bit more effective, no one else in the room was held accountable despite there obviously being a multitude of possible reasons for failure. We've proved that it's unlikely to be our contribution but we're an easy scapegoat.
Annoying thing is these people think they're brilliant at their jobs!!!

medona · 16/04/2015 12:29

Blue he really is that stupid! I'm pretty hard skinned so I just try to ignore him, he's a big dick, but no matter where you work there will be a dick. Its just compounded by shit management.

Thanks I will start more ass covering, it's annoying that I need to do it.

It does sound the the general view on here is that I shouldn't let it slide. Im really not sure if I CBA to do much more and deal with it getting rough. Ibe got a good wage, decent office location and work 3 days. I have a lot going on in my life , so would like to just laugh at this idot and feel sorry for him and concentate on my own life, but it is difficult to do this.

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medona · 16/04/2015 12:31

Ifin that's exactly the person! They are just aggressive and think they are wonderful at their job when they're just shit!

He doesn't even understand the basics of just how to deal with people. I do hope he believes his own hype, thinks he's underpaid and moves to another company where management will call him up on it.

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