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To think most folk still drive manual cars

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Bambambini · 14/04/2015 13:23

Curious to know how many here drive manual or auto. Also how many have never even tried an auto. Sort of mini poll as having words with a yank on another site. Your participation will be appreciated if not rewarded!

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BeeRaven · 15/04/2015 11:08

my car doesn't have gears.... so all the benefits is automatic, without the negatives of being sluggish.

also has regenerative braking so if driving properly can be driven with just one pedal (don't have to use the breaks as the car just slows down as you take your foot of the pedal)...... much easier than automatic :)

Superexcited · 15/04/2015 11:10

I am surprised that people find gears and the clutch distracting (even with kids in the car and roundabouts) as using a gear stick becomes second nature after a few months of driving. I don't even have to think about changing gears it's just instinctive once you have driven a manual car for a while. I appreciate that it is difficult for some people to learn to drive a manual and cope with gear changes but once you have mastered it it really doesn't need thinking about. It's just like people suggesting that manual drivers have a tendency to roll backwards downhill -that is just poor driving or somebody who has a car that is new to them (which is understandable as any new car can take a few journeys to get used to).
probabltjustgas I can see that it makes sense (even financially) for somebody who can't pass a test on a manual to drive an auto but it is an expensive option for anybody else. I've just looked at my current car and if purchased brand new the equivalent auto is £1100 more than the manual and the auto returns 10mpg less. Why are autos so fuel inefficient?

SueDunome · 15/04/2015 11:11

Since being a passenger in an automatic that spun off the road, because the car changed gear on a wet, slippery road, I'd never drive an automatic.

MrsCharlesBrandon · 15/04/2015 11:15

I'm collecting my first auto on friday, after driving a manual since i passed my test. I'm excited! DH has a manual so i will keep my hand in, but i do a lot of city driving and can only see an auto being a positive.

Interesting thread!

HazleNutt · 15/04/2015 11:25

No all automatics don't necessarily consume more fuel than the same model in manual, and in many cases the difference nowadays is minimal.

As for being sluggish - an average shift time for a manual driver is 500 milliseconds to 1 second. There are some automatics that manage that in 8 milliseconds, and for example Audi TT does in in 200ms, BMW M5 in 250. Therefore that's just perception - with manual, it feels like you're doing something during that time.

GiddyOnZackHunt · 15/04/2015 11:34

Hazle -yes they do on 6 speed boxes.

happybunny2014 · 15/04/2015 11:54

I have an auto. I have an auto only license as well... Don't know anyone else currently driving an auto but my dad has had several in the past as has my aunt.

OneEyedWilly · 15/04/2015 12:03

Manual. I like to be in control of gear changes etc. have tried auto but hated it. Everyone else I know drives manual as well, apart from my parents who only use auto now that they are elderly.

BeeRaven · 15/04/2015 12:04

Hazle, the sluggish comments are necessarily about the time changing gears but the time the car takes to react to a gear change being wanted.

ie, its the difference between

  1. changing gear and putting your foot down
  2. putting your foot down and the car realising it needs to more power so changes
HazleNutt · 15/04/2015 12:08

Giddy, just the first google result:
2014 Ford Focus, six-speed automatic version - 31 mpg. Super Fuel Economy option package, six-speed automatic transmission - 33 mpg. A Ford Focus manual - 30 mpg.
Mazda3 - one more mpg with its six-speed automatic than its six-speed manual

GiddyOnZackHunt · 15/04/2015 12:43

You're Googling the manufacturers' fuel consumption tests aren't you? They aren't worth the paper they're written on. Those conditions can't be replicated in real life.

OddBoots · 15/04/2015 12:51

A Prius so you use it like and auto but it has a continuously variable transmission so you feel in control - I didn't like how jerky an auto can be otherwise.

Am I the only lazy sod one here who is looking forward to self driving cars?

HazleNutt · 15/04/2015 13:09

The Mazda for example was a test performed by consumerreports.org, so not the manufacturer.
And unless you have personally tested all automatics and manuals, how can you be so sure none of the autos perform better or equally?

GiddyOnZackHunt · 15/04/2015 13:33

Physics.
Plus a degree of insider knowledge.
As I say they are more efficient once you get above 8 or 9 speed boxes because they use the best revs at higher speeds.

AnitaManeater · 15/04/2015 14:04

I have had 3 autos and 3 manual cats. My favourite was a massive 4x4 auto which had had also had manual gears for off-road stuff. No preference either way but found swapping between the auto and manual regularly a bit weird. Flappy left arm and foot!!

Topseyt · 15/04/2015 14:21

I have had 3 autos and 3 manual cats

Grin Grin

I have one cat. It never occurred to me to check whether he is auto or manual. Grin He does have four legs though, so does that make him a 4 x 4? Grin

BinToHellAndBack · 15/04/2015 14:51

Grin Topseyt! Do you have to change gear on you cat? If not surely he must be at automatic Grin

Topseyt · 15/04/2015 15:27

BinTo, now that I think about it, I haven't. He must be automatic then. Grin

He had lots of speeds when he was younger, but now (at 14) he just seems to have slow and stop, with the odd burst of a higher gear, but never for very long.

I have two dogs too. No manual gears on them either!! Each have four legs and a tail though.

Knottyknitter · 15/04/2015 15:30

Manual. Never driven automatic, but one fltmate had one years ago. No oomph at all, although it was pretty old and knackered anyway.

CarrieAnn83 · 15/04/2015 15:40

Auto here.
Never driven manual. Grin

westcoastnortherneragain · 15/04/2015 15:54

Auto, but we now live in Canada. I drove for years with a manual in the Uk, I can honestly say now i have an auto, i would never go back to a manual car.

ProbablyJustGas · 15/04/2015 16:07

@[b]Superexcited[/b]: I think I remember being able to put a manual car into a higher gear, once it got going (e.g., 2nd to 5th instead of 3rd), during driving lessons, and being told that my mistake was technically fuel efficient. Perhaps manufacturers are taking that into account? You're also taught to put the car in neutral and use the handbrake when stopping for any length of time with a manual. In an automatic car, you're more likely to leave the car in "D" (in gear) and keep your foot on the brake pedal until it's time to go again.

As far as real-life costs go, I think it kind of evens out. If you're buying a car new, or barely used, I imagine an extra £1,000 on a ~£20,000 loan would make a difference, but maybe not that much of a difference, on monthly payments. Not getting out a spreadsheet to check, though. :-p We bought my baby used, with cash (that's how used...), so that part wasn't an issue for us.

In addition, it's only anecdotal, but my husband's beloved manual Golf is a diesel. He is technically supposed to get even better mileage with that type of fuel, but the cost per litre of diesel is so high, and he does so much driving around the city, that we're spending about the same per month to fill up (my Rav being a petrol car).

I do think automatic engines in Britain are getting better every year. If my experience driving a Micra in Ireland during 2006 is any indication, they used to be rubbish - no power and ate fuel. The car I have today drives pretty much like any car I drove back in the US.

Weather conditions can be challening, but most decent automatic boxes have some lower gears that you can force the car into. Handy for snow.

ProbablyJustGas · 15/04/2015 16:07

I should probably preview messages before posting to make sure I'm remembering the right bold code...

ProbablyJustGas · 15/04/2015 16:14

Honestly, I'm glad I packed it in with manual and got an automatic license. My life is so much better, and I am so much more integrated in the UK, now that I have a car of my own to drive. I've met so many people - mostly women - who have never learned to drive in this country because it's all just been too hard. I wonder how many of them would have kept at driving lessons if they'd been offered a shot on a decent automatic car.

ThePortlyPinUp · 15/04/2015 18:46

Auto.
I'm taking my first driving test next month in an auto, I'm much more confident than I was in a manual. DH bought a bigger auto as the family car so that I can drive it when I pass but he said he won't go back to manual now anyway. He was a bus/coach driver for many decades so it's not a confidence thing for him, he just likes the laziness of not changing gear Wink