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Lying to get into non catchment school...

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Thelovecats · 14/04/2015 12:49

Not really an AIBU, more wanting to know if this is really a thing people do.
We live on an island, where everyone gets a place at their catchment school. recently I have found that someone I know is about to arrange a 'rental' of a property in their chosen catchment and is fabricating a story about splitting up with their husband in order to get their kid into their chosen school (they have already been refused the original application).
So, I'm curious, how common is this elsewhere? What happens if they get found out? I'm not bothered by people applying to whatever school they like, but I don't think I could lie to get a place. Could you? Have you? I don't want to discuss this with anyone I know IRL because I don't want to get the person into trouble.

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keepitsimple0 · 16/04/2015 22:43

This is designed to stop exactly the scam you are explaining.

I think the LA's are toothless against a lot of the scams.

you could easily not own a home, rent in catchment with the intention of moving to a cheaper area just outside.

You could have "marital trouble" and get back together after "counselling".

basically, I think unless LA's get really draconian, they will not be able to stop this. one of the main problems is that there is effectively no punishment for it.

tiggytape · 16/04/2015 22:55

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GlacindaTheTroll · 16/04/2015 23:03

'faking' a separation between the parents is a pretty shit thing to do to the DC. Because frequently scams of this type are unearthed because other parents dob cheating families in. So all those around you have to be convinced it's true.

keepitsimple0 · 16/04/2015 23:12

there is very little risk in terms of punishment

why not heavily fine parents? you get 1000 quid for dog fouling, how about lying and cheating and stealing from kids?

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butterflyballs · 16/04/2015 23:18

I used to live in Scotland. In Glasgow to be precise. 99% of pupils went to their local school, hence the majority walked to school. It was a very simple process where you just went to the school, filled out a two page form and you were almost guaranteed a place.

Then I moved back to Dorset, where I'm from, and the shock I've had over the education system, I'm still struggling to understand it three years later.

I had a 6 year old and a 13 year old when I moved here. There were no school places for them at all in this catchment. I was rather stunned to find that, even after appealing, I would not be able to get my youngest into the school in our street, the one that is literally one minute walk door to door. Instead I have, for three years, fought through cars dumped everywhere by parents driving kids to that school to get out of my street to drive 3.5 miles to take her to a school in a different catchment. Where I see kids coming out of houses opposite her school wearing the uniform of the school in our street.

My teen, instead of going to the local high school does an 11 mile round trip on public transport daily which costs me £60 a month. On top of the petrol for driving my youngest.

It's an insane system. Absolutely fucking mental. They need to abolish the choices system and go back to kids going to local schools. I've seen threads on here where people are in tears because they didn't get first choice schools and the one they've been offered isn't as good or their kids friends are going elsewhere or some other stuff. Really? Crying?

Just imagine your kids didn't need an hour in the car each day, you could use that time to do something constructive with them instead.

Icimoi · 17/04/2015 00:38

Butterflyballs, you're entitled to school transport if your child's schools are 3.5 and 11 miles away, unless there are nearer suitable schools with places. Have you applied for it?

Almostapril · 17/04/2015 07:36

Spare change - I so wish our LA would get rid of automatic sibling rule. I know people who have moved 5 miles away into a different LA but keep school place and will get siblings in. Locals within 0.5 miles can't get in

butterflyballs · 17/04/2015 08:27

Teens school is in a different local authority and I was told we couldn't get it. She's in 6th form now and gets a bursary so not so bad.

Dd 2 - I was told her school isn't far enough away and that we could walk. I'm registered disabled, I can't walk that far four times a day. I'm waiting to hear if she's got a place at middle school which is within walking distance and is also the feeder school for the local high school. Ironically the local middle school is suffering badly with ofsted, it used to be rated outstanding hence the absolute scramble to get kids into the school in our street as it feeds into the middle school. I am mainly concerned with my kids going to a local school. She will do well regardless of the ofsted report and if it's that bad then measures will be taken to correct it. Parents here still sing it's praises so....

keepitsimple0 · 17/04/2015 09:02

I think the reasoning is: if the council go the criminal route, they have to prove dishonesty.

makes sense. but does that also pertain to fines? aren't fines easier to get to stick.

the problem with the current system, is why not cheat? You are going to be better off. if you don't get caught, great. If you got caught, you are just where you started, so no loss.

what they could do is withdraw the child from the initial round of application, so that the family is worse off as they may not even get a mediocre place.

keepitsimple0 · 17/04/2015 09:03

Spare change - I so wish our LA would get rid of automatic sibling rule. I know people who have moved 5 miles away into a different LA but keep school place and will get siblings in. Locals within 0.5 miles can't get in

agreed. If you move away, you shouldn't get sibling priority.

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