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To think Farage should lead by example?

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ComposHatComesBack · 13/04/2015 01:19

Nigel Farage has proposed that people will be fined if they turn up at A&E drunk.

Given that he himself ended up having a lengthy stay in hospital after he was run over whilst staggering in front of a car whilst pissed

Should we expect him to set an example by donating the presumably sizeable amount of money he cost the NHS because of his drunken antics? Or is it more hypocritical cant from him and his party?

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spad · 13/04/2015 01:47

What other hypocritical stuff?

engeika · 13/04/2015 02:06

Did he walk in front of the car or was it the driver's fault? I couldn't work that out from the piece.

If he was hit by a car and happened to be drunk at the time - not his fault.
If he was so drunk that he walked in front of a car - his fault - you might have a point.

I don't agree with fining for self-induced accidents. Don't really know where that would stop
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ComposHatComesBack · 13/04/2015 02:19

Well off the top of my head: taking a colossal salary from the EU (an institution he claims to despise) and then not fulfilling the most basic of duties as an MEP.

Complaining about economic migrants from the EU taking British jobs and then employing his German wife as a secretary for £30,000

Claiming that his party is anti-racist and allying himself with a bunch of utterly vile racists in the European Parliament.

Declared himself happy to have his expenses audited and then changed his mind a few days afterwards when it was reported he was claiming £12,000 a year for a building he occupied rent-free.

Claiming UKIP was a party of free-speech and a broad church as a reason for not kicking out Janice 'ting tong' Atkinson, Godfrey 'bongo bongoland' Bloom and David 'Abu Hamza' Coburn when they made gratuitously offensive remarks. But kicked out the party's youth leader when he declared himself in favour of equal marriage rights.

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laughingcow13 · 13/04/2015 02:19

he says he had been drinking and eating curry.doesn't say he was drunk

ComposHatComesBack · 13/04/2015 02:23

I thinking 'drinking steadily all afternoon' and 'I didn't see the car that hit me' would imply that alcohol may well have been a factor.

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OrlandoWoolf · 13/04/2015 02:54

Why not go full hog?

Liver disease - are you an alcoholic? Then pay for it
Cancer - do you smoke? Pay for it/
Take part in dangerous sports. Like flying. Pay for it.
Sexual disease - been playing around. Pay for it
Are you in poverty? Are you ill? Tough - you're probably feckless. Pay for it

Where do you stop? It sets a dangerous precedent.

GuybrushThreepwoodMP · 13/04/2015 07:08

YABU. He shouldn't be leading at all. And he won't thankfully.

shewept · 13/04/2015 07:16

I can't see how it would work at all. I am sure most people turning up at and hospital could be blamed in some way.

Cancer - did you ever smoke/ have lots of unprotected sex and end up with cervical cancer, your fault
Pregnant - did you plan the baby (your fault so pay) was the pg an accident (you weren't careful enough)
Drug overdose - your fault
Accident at football - your fault for playing
Liver failure - do you drink? Your fault
Child injures itself - parents fault for not helicopter parenting

I hate the idea of binge drinkers ruining a&e but I just don't know where it would stop.

ComposHatComesBack · 13/04/2015 10:45

I'm not saying the policy is a good thing at all. I think it as a terrible idea. I was commenting on the hypocrisy of Farage wanting to charge people for injuries sustained when drunk, when he benefitted from expensive and lengthy teatment for an injury he received when drunk.

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DoraGora · 13/04/2015 10:52

When you're an opposition party, which hasn't a hope of achieving anything, you can say what you like about anything. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it.

ComposHatComesBack · 13/04/2015 10:56

I don't worry about it per second, but it sticks in my craw and the media give Farage a remarkably easy ride and rarely properly take him to task. The James o' Brien interview was the exception when it should be the norm.

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ComposHatComesBack · 13/04/2015 10:57

Per se not per second.

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Hamiltoes · 13/04/2015 10:57

I don't agree with the policy but I don't think he shouldn't be allowed to advocate it just because he did it himself.

Thats like saying an MP can't advocate a "landlord tax" just because he's a landlord himself, or harsher penalties for speeding because they've been fined before.

If it was generally agreed by the public that this policy was "morally right" then just because he'd made that mistake before doesn't mean he can't agree with it. Maybe he understands he did wrong and thinks their should be some sort of penalty for doing it?

That said I think he's an arsehole.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 13/04/2015 10:59

Yes fully agree with others. Where do we drAw the line.

ComposHatComesBack · 13/04/2015 12:09

I don't propose drawing the line, but Farage does. Despite having staggered drunkenly over that same line himself.

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GoodbyeToAllOfThat · 13/04/2015 12:13

I love the idea of being fined if you turn up drunk at the A&E.

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