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AIBU?

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To really dislike the message in the Ugly Duckling?

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SantanaLopez · 09/04/2015 23:06

Who says the duckling is ugly, FFS? Why should we pander to the nasty, bullying bird babies?

What a shitty message, that you have to have a transformation and be a sexy swan before people like you.

(perhaps a better AIBU would be: DH needs to book me into a fucking spa or I'll lose my mind....)

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Lweji · 10/04/2015 19:10

The message from the Prodigal son is quite simply that God forgives those who have strayed away from him and will be happy to receive them back if they ask for forgiveness.
While those who have stayed faithful are already saved and should be welcoming of newcomers to the faith, instead of jealous.

nochocolateforlentteacake · 10/04/2015 19:13

Oh I get the message (works for the church, I do) its more the literal telling of the tale...

howlongwillthesunlast · 10/04/2015 19:13

Lweji and you summed up the prodigal perfectly again , that's how i understand it. But its interesting how stories have different meanings to people, I'm quite enjoying this thread.

Lweji · 10/04/2015 19:24

I'm quite good at summaries, I am. :)
It's my "thang".

As for parables I'm actually more concerned about the one where the vine workers are contracted at different times during the day and all receive the same pay in the end. (also get the meaning, but it's king of harder to understand from a financial point of view - I bet employees would be very, very angry)

howlongwillthesunlast · 10/04/2015 19:33

Lweji thats really interesting, the parable i grapple with is the one about the talents. You have 3 people being given talents 1,2 and 3. the one with 1 talent buries his in the ground (does bugger all with it), the with two talents doubled his (good for you son!) the one with 3 talents multiplies his (tenfold i think?) anyway the one with 1 talent has his talent taken away and given to the guy with 3 who multiplied his (fine i get this!) but the guy with two talents also had his talent taken away and given to Mr multiplier...why?

OrlandoWoolf · 10/04/2015 19:51

What a shitty message, that you have to have a transformation and be a sexy swan before people like you

Which is basically the message in Grease

nochocolateforlentteacake · 10/04/2015 19:56

But he did try to turn geeky though...

squoosh · 10/04/2015 20:04

And My Fair Lady, and Sabrina, and Pretty Woman......

Where would the world of cinema be without swan like makeovers!

OrlandoWoolf · 10/04/2015 20:07

Neighbours - Jane takes off glasses.

squoosh · 10/04/2015 20:11

Ah yes, glasses. Well known inhibitors of The Sex in 1980's Australian suburbs.

To really dislike the message in the Ugly Duckling?

Lweji · 10/04/2015 20:30

Is it me or does she look better when she's wearing the glasses? :)

Lweji · 10/04/2015 20:34

Doesn't the one with the two talents keep them? I thought he did.
But then it gets confusing, because the master entrusted his money to his servants, so they should have returned the money and the interest to the master, surely, not keep it. Or did the one with 10 talents get to keep the one talent?

nickelbarapasaurus · 10/04/2015 20:42

the lottle match girl thing.

i like Artificial Flowers by the beautiful south, just searched it on youtube and found someone's done

nickelbarapasaurus · 10/04/2015 20:51

they all had to give their talents to the master, but the master rewarded them with good stuff. except the crap one who was sacked and throwninto gaol.

Blueskybrightstar · 10/04/2015 20:54

Isn't the story a bit like Dumbo who gets rejected because of his big floppy ears, then everyone likes him in the end? Same as the duckling who turns our to be a gorgeous swan? I.e. people are just idiots who follow the crowd without thinking for themselves, basically, if they reject or judge you just for being different from the,, and they are shown to be the stupid ones in the end, whereas the outsider / Dumbo / duckling ends up the hero who does well? I thought that's quite a nice message for youngsters.

fourteen · 10/04/2015 21:24

But the duckling doesn't do well. The duckling has to turn into the swan before anyone likes him.

So, the mean nasty bullies aren't the ones with the problem (in the story). The problem is the duckling's, who has to do the changing and the adjusting in order to be accepted.

Wrong.

fourteen · 10/04/2015 21:28

The whole of idea of the movie makeover is a crock of shit.

Julia Roberts should have gone to the polo in her tramp outfit. Not utterly compromised herself in a dowdy brown shirtwaster to fit in with Richard Gere's repressed idea of "acceptable".

Fuck him and his stupid WASP friends.

findingherfeet · 10/04/2015 21:28

Haha I ALWAYS think this!! His mother doesn't like him, siblings won't play with him because he's ugly and doesn't fit in and only finds accpetance when he's beautiful.

I can't help but grumble about it to my 3yo...

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