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To think this nurse was not appropriate

49 replies

Notmymuse · 08/04/2015 13:49

I'm a type 1 diabetic and had to go for my joyous annual foot check. I'm a teacher so always go in the holidays and today I ended up having to take ds with me.

When I went in the nurse asked if I was type 1 or 2. When I said type 1 she asked if I took insulin. I said yes and she said sagely 'yes yes, it's important to take insulin if you're a type 1 diabetic.' Startling information given that I've had the condition 23 years.

She then went on at length about how important it is to have your feet checked. This is what she said:

You must have your feet checked, it's very important because being diabetic means you might have to have your feet amputated. That means cut off! Or even your legs. We still have people being amputated even now. I can think of three in the last few years. One was a heavy drug user, one was morbidly obese and didnt look after himself and the third never attended any hospital appointments or took her insulin and had also gone blind.

Lovely. Well those situations don't apply to me happily. She then said: just because you're young you can't ignore the condition. Young people always think it won't happen to them but you could easily have to have your feet cut off.

I'm 32 by the way. So not that young. And I'm very very very careful with my diabetes. Very. I attend every check I need to, I test my sugars, I exercise, I watch what I eat, my hbA1c is always excellent. Basically I do my very best so to be told 'just because I'm young doesn't mean I can ignore it' is annoying. I'm not bloody ignoring it!

Anyway what annoyed me the most was the fact ds (5) was drinking all the information in and is now worried that a) I will have my feet cut off and b) I'll go blind.

Furthermore when we went in ds said cheerfully 'we're here for mommy not me, I'm not diabetic.'
And then just as we left the nurse said to me 'he might not be diabetic yet but his risk is much higher because of you.'
So now he's worried about that too. I was well aware of the increased risk but it wasn't something I particularly wanted him to be aware of at the age of 5 unless necessary.

I suppose the answer is not to take him with me but id no one else to have him and given that I'm at work when he's at school and it's tricky for me to get term time off I didn't have much option.

Sorry it's long but seriously, was there any need? She was so patronising too. She spoke to me as if I was a child. Why go on and on about amputation when it's clear I take the diabetes seriously. If I was poorly controlled and rarely attended appointments I could understand them trying to impress the importance of it to me but I already know it's important. That's why I go!

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Charley50 · 08/04/2015 16:12

YANBU and I would complain. Yes it's a training issue but she was extremely insensitive saying all if that in front of your DS.

Notmymuse · 08/04/2015 16:21

I know it sounds petty but it's the way she said it too. Very dramatically. Very loudly. Very slowly. And repeatedly.
However I will just stick to the facts when complaining rather than saying I didn't like 'how she said it' Which I didn't.

Apparently she is the diabetic nurse for the practice. Oh dear. They used to do the foot thing at my hospital appointment but have apparently moved it to the gp's. this is unfortunate for me and also seems a waste of nhs time. Two appointments when really one would do.

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annielouise · 08/04/2015 17:08

Easy to say but I think I would have said something like "yes, I'm well aware, thank you!" and been a bit snippy to shut her up. If that didn't work "do you mind, I know enough about my condition and what you're saying is not appropriate in front of my 5 year old" ending with a raised eyebrow. I've very little patience with people though and you sound a lot nicer Smile. Definitely complain.

NurseRoscoe · 08/04/2015 17:39

Im a student nurse and we learn briefly about the 'expert patient' at uni, as in a patient who has had the condition a long time like you and knows all the basic information plus much more, there is no way I would be bleating all that to you when you've had the condition for so long, you obviously attend your appointments and are managing it well. All she had to do was check your feet then ask if you had any questions or problems! Saying all that in front of your little boy was awful, especially as there was no need to! YANBU, I think you should write a letter to the practice manager so it can be picked up on

TheWernethWife · 08/04/2015 17:54

I have type 2 diabetes and go for Retinopathy Screening every year. At my last visit, despite me telling the woman that this would be my tenth year of screening, she continued to tell me all about the test, that nothing would touch my eyes and there would nothing to be scared of etc, all in a patronising girly sing song voice. If she does it again this year I definitely will complain.

WilburIsSomePig · 08/04/2015 17:59

That's bloody shocking! DD has Type 1 and I would be furious if she had this kind of treatment.

rollonthesummer · 08/04/2015 18:01

Was she 100% definitely a nurse?

Bakeoffcake · 08/04/2015 18:04

Absolutley dreadful.

It doesn't matter what the appointment was for, for any medical professional to speak like that is unbelievable.

Write a letter to the practice manager.

MrsCampbellBlack · 08/04/2015 18:08

YANBU. Definitely complain. DS recently diagnosed with type one aged 10 and I would go absolutely crazy if any medical 'professional' spoke to him like that.

She needs training for sure.

Notmymuse · 08/04/2015 18:15

Yes she's the diabetes specialist nurse allegedly. She's been at the practice for years.

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Notmymuse · 08/04/2015 18:17

Hope your ds is getting on MrsCampbell

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ilovemargaretatwood8931 · 08/04/2015 18:22

Oh God, what a twat she was/is... Please complain OP. It infuriates me that someone like this has power, influence and authority over people. I'm angry on your behalf. It genuinely worries me that she's a specialist.

ilovemargaretatwood8931 · 08/04/2015 18:23

Sorry, I was rude in my post. I mean, she might not be a twat, but her behaviour was twattish. And stupid. And ill judged.

MrsCampbellBlack · 08/04/2015 18:36

Thanks notmymuse! First clinic appointment tomorrow - he's having a lot of hypos but coping amazingly well Smile

Welshmaenad · 08/04/2015 19:37

Please complain.

I am a type 2 diabetic, I am insulin resistant but had to take insulin in pregnancy. I had a superb consultant who in my second pregnancy was very happy for me to self adjust my insulin dose to keep my blood sugars under control (up to 12/13 weeks I also had to eliminate all sugars, starchy carbs and fruit from my diet to maintain control to prevent miscarriage, of which I had several before managing to hang on to DS). My first child was very unwell at birth and nearly died, non diabetes related, I was already very worried, and my consultant was very happy for me to do whatever I needed.

I saw a diabetic nurse at about 26 weeks who was horrendous to me, told me the large amounts of insulin I was taking (with cons blessing) were basically going to kill my baby. She triggered antenatal depression so bad that I was utterly convinced I was going to lose ds or that he would be stillborn, I became an anxious mess and I stopped going to all diabetic appointments, though I maintained good control.

Ds was fine, and I was eventually convinced to see cons again and told her why I'd been avoiding clinic, and she went bonkers at what the nurse had done to me.

I will never forgive that bitch for what she put me through. She wasn't even correct, and cons said if I'd only come back to see her, she could have reassured me that the amounts of insulin I was taking were fine FOR ME and my baby, and not a danger.

Ds is nearly five and I still avoid seeing the diabetes nurse - it's really affected my trust in health professionals. Sadly my control is not so great at the moment due to depression and other factors, and I could use their support, but I'm afraid to go.

Welshmaenad · 08/04/2015 19:41

Sorry, I kind of lost track there.

My point is, there's ensuring patients are aware of the need for good control, and unnecessarily scaring the ever loving crap out of them in a really aggressive way, and she clearly needs further training on the distinction.

ilovemargaretatwood8931 · 08/04/2015 19:41

Flowers welsh

Good God, I'm angry on your behalf too. What a horrible, stupid nurse you saw.
I'm very sorry it had such awful long term effects on you and your health.

Welshmaenad · 08/04/2015 19:55

Thank you.

I've had a bit of a turnaround the last few days and have changed my diet and actually taken my meds properly. I'm having blood drawn on Friday and I know my hba1c will be horrific, but I really need to sort myself for kids' sake.

Notmymuse · 08/04/2015 20:01

That sounds horrendous welsh
When you're vulnerable you really need people to by sympathetic and helpful, not terrify you like that.
I hope you manage to get things sorted. Can you see the good consultant again - the one you liked - or was that only during pregnancy?

I've received some truly horrific advice on occasion. When I was pregnant with ds I had awful morning sickness (24 hours a day) and my sugars would drop overnight and the gp advised me to stop taking my insulin altogether. Altogether! I thought I had the wrong end of the stick but clarified twice that's what he meant. I ignored him of course but other people may not have done and that was extremely dangerous advice.

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Nectarines · 08/04/2015 20:13

That's awful. How unprofessional!

I've seen quite a few diabetes specialist nurses and every one has been incredibly knowledgeable and supportive. You deserve the same.

EponasWildDaughter · 08/04/2015 20:15

Everything that's been said already - yes, complain, that was awful. Your poor DS. YANBU at all OP.

But i just have to say ...

''Young people always think it won't happen to them but you could easily have to have your feet cut off ....''

to me sounds soooo Father Ted Grin

Notmymuse · 08/04/2015 20:16

I know - can you believe she said it! I was nearly laughing when I came out - in an incredulous way - because I just couldn't believe it!

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