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AIBU?

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To think that you can not blame police if you take your daughter on extremist rallies.

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Amylovesgalaxyeggs · 06/04/2015 10:26

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3027035/Father-runaway-jihadi-schoolgirl-filmed-burning-flag-protest-admits-attending-says-took-daughter-demonstration-just-13.html

It just gets worse and worse doesn't it. I can't beleive this family has the cheek to blame schools, police and border forces when the cause of his daughter going to Syria is your own fault.

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Alisvolatpropiis · 06/04/2015 10:27

I don' think yabu.

Posters are going to complain you didn't put a daily mail link warning in the thread title though.

Amylovesgalaxyeggs · 06/04/2015 10:28

www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article4402901.ece

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PerpendicularVincenzo · 06/04/2015 10:28

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PourquoiTuGachesTaVie · 06/04/2015 10:28

They can see it's a dm link before clicking on it thought. It's not a hidden link.

FryOneFatManic · 06/04/2015 10:31

Seeing a variety of articles about this family and their extremism makes me wonder if they really are unhappy about the daughter's decision, or if they are just trying to avoid the focus being on them.

I think radicalisation doesn't happen in a vacuum. Either the girls were in a vulnerable home environment or their families were that way inclined anyhow. I feel someone who is secure in themselves would be less likely to get radicalised, and that would mean a supportive home environment.

Amylovesgalaxyeggs · 06/04/2015 10:31

I've linked to the times as well

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shewept · 06/04/2015 10:35

They are the problem. Complete arrogance on their part to assume this would never come out.

Amylovesgalaxyeggs · 06/04/2015 10:38

It is arrogance and greed I suspect they would of sued for compensation if it wasn't for this coming out.

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PHANTOMnamechanger · 06/04/2015 10:40

YANBU at all. The "poor us" mentality, wanting sympathy as the shocked family "how can this have happened to us". The arrogance that they thought all this would never come out, just sickens me.

Why is there such a reluctance to accept responsibility for ones own actions, ones own influence for good or bad that you have on your DC as a parent. OK this is the very extreme end of that but in all sorts of other ways too people just won't take responsibility.

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shewept · 06/04/2015 11:12

It pisses me off that they got an apology. Although I do suspect the police knew and it was a pr stunt, so they looked like they were supporting the family till it came out.

The mock shock, is designed to spread the fear that no one can tell where the threat will come from. Its designed to make everyone else feel that it can happen anywhere at anytime and you can't predict where or when. Its a terror tactic on its own. It is also, as pp, said a way to try and bleed more money out of the country.

StillLostAtTheStation · 06/04/2015 11:29

I don't like the flag burning but I don't think a protest outside the Saudi embassy = supporting terrorism.

Given the Saudi record on human rights I'm sure you'll find all sorts of people have done that- Peter Tatchell for example on several occasions.

AuntieStella · 06/04/2015 11:34

Another DM article on this?

This thread discusses, at length, issues when his attendance at demonstrations was first reported.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2342027-To-not-be-the-least-bit-suprised-by-this-Jihadi-schoolgirls

base9 · 06/04/2015 11:44

If the only rally he took her on was to protest the Saudi human rights record.against Africans, then that is a long way from extremist.

However his own views certainly need a lot more scrutiny. And obviously it is not the fault of the police!

Tutteredboast · 06/04/2015 11:51

I've been to loads of anti war demos and US flags are often burned. I am no extremist.
Flags were burned at the huge Feb 15th 2003 demo. That didn't make the million or so attending extremists.
Also, the demo outside the Saudi embassy was about the Saudi treatment of Ethiopians so irrelevant.
I didn't think the police should have apologised tho.

ReallyTired · 06/04/2015 11:54

I feel that if Amira has any brothers or sisters then they need taking into care. Clearly the father has no concept of keeping his children safe from harm if he take his kids to such extreme protests with extreme preachers.

I suspect that the Amira's parents are complicit with the girls going to Syria.

StillLostAtTheStation · 06/04/2015 12:08

I have been on a few demos, none involving burning anything. I think burning books and flags makes demonstrators look deranged.

shewept · 06/04/2015 13:04

I think flag burning is a disgrace. No peaceful protest can retain the 'peaceful' tag, when flags are being burned.

ReallyTired · 06/04/2015 13:09

A flag is only a piece of material. The issue with certain protestors is the speakers who incite hatred and violence. No decent parent would take a child to such a demo knowingly. Or if there is an extremist speaker at a demo then a decent parent would take their children home.

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