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to enjoy certain hymns, even though I am not a Christian ?

129 replies

vienna1981 · 05/04/2015 20:29

Lyrically, hymns are largely meaningless because of their subject matter. However, there are some very fine tunes to be found within. I like the commonly known stuff such as All Things Bright And Beautiful, Immortal Invincible and The Lord Is My Shepherd (we had the latter at my mum's funeral).
My favourite, however, is Abide With Me. The melody is gorgeous. But am I a hypocrite to have a fondness for something I don't believe in ?

Also, do Amazing Grace and How Great Thou Art count as hymns. The latter strikes me as an African American spiritual. I don't know if it is Grin . Thankyou.

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MildredDreadful · 07/04/2015 14:17

Apologies not apples!

Bue · 07/04/2015 14:42

The world would be a poorer place without the Christian (and especially Anglican) hymnal! Whether or not you believe, the music is glorious.

vienna1981 · 07/04/2015 15:07

Well, I'm glad it's not just me. My mum always used to watch Songs of Praise, even though she wasn't a churchgoer. She was also quite partial to watching gospel choirs on television.

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ErrolTheDragon · 07/04/2015 16:25

Anyone else been on Songs of Praise? Grin

vienna1981 · 07/04/2015 16:38

Apparently some Welshman called Aled Jones is on it quite a lot Grin . Otherwise it's ladies with new hats and shiny dentures.

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ErrolTheDragon · 07/04/2015 16:44

I think when I participated Aled would have been a very small child!

MildredDreadful · 07/04/2015 16:55

Yes Errol! In about 1982. In my smartest school uniform with lovely lank hair and enormous braces on my teeth....I was about 12 or so. I sang heartily with the rest of my form as instructed by our scary form mistress.

MildredDreadful · 07/04/2015 16:56

And yes I'm older than Aled too...

vienna1981 · 07/04/2015 21:30

Are hymns still sung at primary, or even secondary school ? Or is this a thing of the past. It's nearly thirty five years since I left primary school and I don't have children so I'm rather out of touch.

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ErrolTheDragon · 07/04/2015 23:25

Many primaries have some hymns in the collective worship though they may be trite newfangled ditties.

maddening · 07/04/2015 23:35

At primary school I loved loads mentioned here but does anyone remember "autumn days"?

Yarp · 08/04/2015 09:03

vienna

I think in some areas, but more multicultural/multi-ethnic areas such as mine would not include prayers or hymns in the "collective" worship

Yarp · 08/04/2015 09:05

maddening
Yes!! (vaguely). I sing it to my DH to annoy him:

"Autumn Days when the leaves are turning and the something, something something else

Something about jets refuelling

All these things I love so well

So I mustn't forget
No, I mustn't forget
To say a great big Thankyou
No I mustn't forget "

Yarp · 08/04/2015 09:08

Oh, and something about Chestnut trees

ihavenonameonhere · 08/04/2015 10:27

I'm an atheist and love them. Also listened to the Easter story on Friday when it was on the local radio. My DH thought it was odd but if you don't believe it's just a nice story

BigBoobiedBertha · 08/04/2015 11:02

I'll admit to going to church mainly for the singing (also for the sense of community too) I am agnostic but love the opportunity to sing with a group. Unless I join a choir, which I don't have time for, it is the only opportunity I will get. DH wants to go - his father was a minister so he was brought up with it - but I think, if he is honest, it is for the singing and to be part of the local community too, more than faith. Our music group is ace as well - several guitars and keyboards for the modern stuff (In Christ Alone almost has me believing Wink) and the organ for the traditional stuff.

BigBoobiedBertha · 08/04/2015 11:05

Songs of Praise, like churches, has changed a lot since we were kids. Lots more younger people now. They recently changed the format to make it even more diverse. Allegedly.

vienna1981 · 08/04/2015 18:35

Give us this day
All that you showed me
The power and the glory
Till thy Kingdom come.

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maddening · 08/04/2015 19:19

That's the one yarp - whenever this conversation comes up - usually during reminiscing about childhood primary schools and no one has ever heard of it :)

maddening · 08/04/2015 19:21

Songs of praise was described as Sunday karaoke in our house

TooManyMochas · 08/04/2015 20:02

The irony is that many UK churches don't sing many or even any of the things mentioned on this thread. In my experience you would have to go somewhere quite elderly traditional to hear a lot of those hymns sung on a Sunday. Its funny how the secular perception of what-most-Christians-sing is a good few decades behind what-most-Christians-actually-sing.

LadyCatherineDeTurd · 08/04/2015 20:16

Yanbu. I'm not Jewish but I still like Hava Nagila.

reverend · 08/04/2015 22:56

I'm a curate in the local parish of Coity, Nolton & Brackla and on Good Friday at our Messy Church we had 150 plus of all ages singing a more contemporary worship song and it was amazing! lifted the roof of Nolton church and most certainly lifted the hearts and spirits to all of the young and more mature who joined us for the morning and stayed for lunch afterwards. Singing is good for the soul - what ever your belief - Bridgenders come and join us for the next one - All welcome! Rev Jayne.

BackforGood · 08/04/2015 23:52

Really TooMany ?
We sing most of the hymns mentioned on here at our Church, along with lots of lovely newer ones too - but we've certainly not thrown out the classsics. Oh, and we have plenty of families - we're not all elderly by any means.

ErrolTheDragon · 09/04/2015 00:16

I guess that if we're not churchgoers then we're more likely to come across old hymns at weddings, funerals and carol services.

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