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to think the Camerons are hypocrites?

381 replies

Pixel · 05/04/2015 15:51

I've always had the utmost sympathy for them and what they went through in losing their eldest son, but Sam has made me very cross today. She's going on about how difficult it is caring for a disabled child and saying 'it pushes you to the limits of what you can cope with', yet the other day I saw this article. It says that the BBC has seen leaked documents showing that the Conservatives are planning to cut carer's allowance and disability benefits should they get re-elected.

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madreloco · 05/04/2015 15:53

I think you need to underestimate the differences beetween personal experience and political action. And also the difference between a woman and her husband and his job.

RVPisnomore · 05/04/2015 15:54

YABU

madreloco · 05/04/2015 15:56

Understand, not underestimate. Stupid autocorrect

OvertiredandConfused · 05/04/2015 15:59

YABU. It was a personal account of a situation that none of us would wish on anyone

That leaked article highlighted SOME of the options that are apparently being considered. All the parties will have to make cuts if they are elected. Some are more open about it than others.

Pagwatch · 05/04/2015 15:59

The 'but' in your op actually negates everything you said before.
I hate this shit.

Teenagenightmares · 05/04/2015 16:00

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Triooooooooooo · 05/04/2015 16:00

I empathise massively with them. They went through hell.

But with regards the caring role they had not just one nanny, but two.

People in my area in similar situations are offered a flat rate respite of four hours pw, no overnight breaks. Due to the cuts, people are struggling to even get this.They just have to cope.

As I said I empathise massively but they really need to stop wheeling that poor child out to make a point. It's wrong. Because they didnt experience life as true carers, there's just no comparison.

EatenEasterChocsAlready · 05/04/2015 16:01

I read that and also thought, what the hell are you doing for the families with disabled dc now?
One would think as PM wife she would be shouting from mountains to get struggling families more help.

RufusTheReindeer · 05/04/2015 16:03

Agree with mad

drudgetrudy · 05/04/2015 16:04

Emotionally it will have been just as traumatic and distressing, but practically and financially there would not be the same stress as many carers experience.

The proposed cuts to carer's allowance are a terrible thing and will hit people in horrible circumstances.

chickenfuckingpox · 05/04/2015 16:06

if i had been through this and i was his wife there would be an increase in carers allowance i would be pushing him for better facilities for people without their money to pay for things

the phrase there-but for the grace of god would be often used frequently

drudgetrudy · 05/04/2015 16:07

PS I don't see any other party considering cuts that would target the most vulnerable in order to avoid raising taxes. (haven't seen UKIP's proposals but none of the female candidates on that panel would remotely consider this).

Pixel · 05/04/2015 16:08

And also the difference between a woman and her husband and his job.
You are joking? She's the one campaigning to get hubby in for another five years because he 'deserves it', visiting Rochester and making sure there are photographers there and generally putting herself about. Why do you think she is suddenly doing interviews with newspapers with an election looming? She is using her 'experiences' to try to influence voters.

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Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 05/04/2015 16:08

Ynbu. I can't understand their treatment of the disabled and their carers either. In what they went through losing their beautiful son. You'd think they'd be more understanding than anyone
Now I know everyone's entitled to their vote but I just can't get my head around the fact that people would vote for a party with these policies because let's not forget. It's a terrifying thought but any of us could become disabled and need disability money.

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/04/2015 16:08

They do understand having a child with disabilities and their personal tragedy must have been awful for them.

However, they absolutely cannot understand, or empathise with, people with no support, no money, no respite, no resources.

gamerchick · 05/04/2015 16:09

So if you don't claim UC you'll no longer get CA it's saying?

Pixel · 05/04/2015 16:17

The 'but' in your op actually negates everything you said before.

Don't see why. All it means is that my sympathy is starting to wear thin.
I'm so grateful my precious boy is still alive and I still wouldn't wish what the Camerons went through losing theirs on my worst enemy, but I don't need SamCam telling me how hard it is looking after them. I've never had any respite at all, ever.

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IsabellaofFrance · 05/04/2015 16:18

They suffered a terrible loss and for that I feel the deepest sympathy for them.

But money gave them the ability to get respite, equipment, support. Things that not many people with disabled children could call upon. Therefore they can never understand the struggle of Joe Bloggs who has a child with the same condition but who works in a minimum wage job.

The fact that she isn't using her position as the PM's wife to help other families in similar situations really brings her down in my estimations. She has nothing on Sarah Brown.

IsabellaofFrance · 05/04/2015 16:20

My DS has severe ASD, rather than CP.

For me, its the fear of the future that is that hardest thing, rather than the care. Its the one thing that causes friction and conflict between DH and I , and the stress is enormous.

zen1 · 05/04/2015 16:21

That's what it seems to be saying gamerchick. Bastards.

drudgetrudy · 05/04/2015 16:22

It will affect many women-it will become means-tested and family income as a whole considered-so anyone giving up work to care for anyone, parent or child will not be treated as an individual but a dependent of their partner.

This is how it was prior to 1990 when hospice social workers campaigned for carers allowance to be paid to married women. It was only available to single women and men before that.

dreamingofsun · 05/04/2015 16:30

i wouldn't believe what the bbc tell you. they are so politically biased its like living on another planet

zeezeek · 05/04/2015 16:32

Neither Sarah nor Gordon Brown used either the death of their premature baby or the serious illness of one of their sons as a way of getting votes. David Cameron has. Whilst I applaud politicians showing their human sides, using your children - well/ill/alive/dead - on the campaign trail is disgusting.

gamerchick · 05/04/2015 16:33

But that's shit! They can't do that man.. its a piddly amount as it is but it'll leave a hole if it's taken away Confused

trufflesnout · 05/04/2015 16:36

They take away from the most vulnerable in society - those who are least likely to be able to advocate for themselves - and they justify it to everyone else because they've been there too. Absolute shite.