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Re O'Brien AIBU in thinking

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Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 31/03/2015 12:54

The comment that polictician (sorry didn't catch his name) mAde about the women with 8 kids Is a very serious safe guarding issue.
Conversation went like this
James O'Brien re women with 8 kids. If she gets a job what does she do with her 8 kids?
Polictician. she should have thought of that before she had 8 kids, now that to me says a total disregard for Childs safety. Does he advocate children being left on their own.
The children don't ask to be born do they, why do these policticians seem to get off on punishing children.
All very well penalizing single parents but why don't they go after the blokes who get them pregnant or can they only target women.

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AuntieStella · 31/03/2015 13:00

Link?

(Tried google, can't find likely article)

WorraLiberty · 31/03/2015 13:02

I can't see how you got from that, that he might advocate leaving children on their own?

I get from it that he clearly has no answer to the question. The 8 kids are here now and that's what he needed to focus on...not the parent's inability to think before they were born.

I'm not watching it btw, just going on you OP.

WorraLiberty · 31/03/2015 13:03

*your OP

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 31/03/2015 13:03

Hi Stella.
It's not in the paper. I am currently watching it on ITV.
They're talking about. Being too fat to work now

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Totality22 · 31/03/2015 13:17

Urm I think you are being far too literal.

He did not in any way, shape or form suggest she leaves her 8 children.

However I do agree his answer was a bit pointless, the 8 kids are here now and he'd have been better served to answer

"those of school age go to school, childcare for the rest" - or something else that at least tried to be practical.

madreloco · 31/03/2015 13:26

He's right though, she should have some sort of plan for how she was going to support 8 kids before she had them. Shouldn't we all do that?

Basically, all he was saying was: thats her problem, they are her kids.

SpringtimeForShatner · 31/03/2015 13:30

He didn't say she should leave the children. He said she should have thought about what impact having 8 children would have on her chances of going to work rather than say that they're what's stopping her getting her a job.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 31/03/2015 13:31

That's what I mean. All very well saying you chose to have 8 kids blah blah but once the kids are here that saying is pointless

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Brandysnapper · 31/03/2015 13:34

It becomes the kids problem though if the parents can't afford to look after them. Then the government must ensure they have a decent standard of living.

madreloco · 31/03/2015 13:39

It's not pointless if the intent is to make people at least attempt to take some responsibility for their own children. It's not ok to sit back and say, I've got 8 children, you can't expect me to do anything. Well, yes we can expect you to at least try. You created the situation, its not everyone elses responsibility to fix it.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 31/03/2015 13:42

Still no critic for the absent parent I see. Now does that not surprise me.
Last time I checked women don't get pregnant on their own

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madreloco · 31/03/2015 13:56

Neither do they have no say in the matter. And they still have the responsibility. Of course the absent parent should be chased up too, but that doesn't let the resident parent off the hook.

seriouslypeedoff · 31/03/2015 14:14

Of course the non resident parent/s are at fault too. But that's not what is being discussed. It could also be said that she shouldn't have had that many kids with a knobber. I am sure the father didn't just turn into a cock upon the birth of the eighth child either.

It can round and round in circles. But I can't get on board with the fact that its ok to have 8 kids and not support them. From either parent. I also can't get on board with the family being left destitute either. The kids are here. Too late, but something should be done to discourage people from having so many kids, they don't have a chance of providing for.

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