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Underthedeepblueocean · 31/03/2015 12:43

I am pregnant and without wanting to beat around the bush, don't want to be. I seriously considered terminating the pregnancy but I was further along than I thought.

My DD will be 15 months when no3 arrives (I also have a school age son) and I just am dreading it. I feel resentful of the pregnancy and am dreading the birth and just all the horrible feelings about it - there are a hundred good reasons for me NOT to have this baby. But I have to.

I don't even know why I'm posting - just to see if anybody has experienced similar feelings before giving birth? I just hope once she's here I'll love her and not resent her Sad

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MrsDeVere · 31/03/2015 18:39

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SneakretSanta · 31/03/2015 18:42

I burst into tears when I found out I was pregnant Blush. I'm not married but from a religious family, and was so ashamed, and had also just started a four year degree I was desperate to finish. Spent the pregnancy alternating between being mildly excited but terrified and just trying to forget about it and get my exams done. I assumed when he was born I'd feel the rush of love thing- but no. When we were discharged after a week I cried again because we had to take DS with us Blush. The first couple of months were utterly awful, but I went through the motions and just assumed that if I acted like a Mum I'd start to feel like one, and oddly it actually worked. I suddenly realised when he was about four months that I loved him, and now he's eight months he's dozing on my boob at the moment and looking at him I can't imagine not thinking he's the greatest thing ever. I've extended the time I'm off uni to spend longer with him and love him to bits. I have no idea if that helps - but I remember saying sobbing to DP when DS was about ten weeks that he should just leave me and take the baby so he could find a stepmother who actually loved him Hmm. Bonding can definitely happen even when things seem against it!

SneakretSanta · 31/03/2015 18:44

And yes what MrsDeVere said - being less than thrilled is a normal human reaction, not a rejection and not anything that needs to have any impact on your relationship in the long term!

gallicgirl · 31/03/2015 18:46

Aww bless, it's hard work isn't it?
Please try to discuss this with your midwife and see if you can access support before the baby arrives.
With my first, I was very excited but struggled to bond afterwards. For a long time she felt like someone else's daughter and I was adamant we wouldn't have any more children.
I then got pregnant with 2nd child, unplanned and I was very ambivalent about it. Finally pulled myself together about 6 weeks before due date, spoke to pre-natal mental health team and got an action plan for post birth. I also followed the Positive Birth Movement on facebok and found the stories shared by other women very helpful. DS was born 2 weeks ago and he's fabulous. We bonded straight away and things are going well so far.

I hope you manage to find a solution and some peace in your decisions.

Jaffacakesaremyfave · 31/03/2015 19:21

I'm so sorry you are feeling this way, I've been there and I know how isolating it can be. It's hard to admit to people in RL for fear of being judged but I think the way you are feeling is far more common than you think.

I was 23 when pregnant with DS3. DS1 was 4 and DS2 was 2 and I was in my final year at university. I was in an abusive marriage, found out exH was having an affair and had little support. I remember not wanting to be pregnant, being so scared how I would cope with 3 young children by myself and it worried me how little I felt for my unborn son. I also considered abortion but I found out quite late (9 weeks) and just couldn't go through with it.

When DS3 was born, I fell in love with him instantly and all my worries about not wanting him melted away.

He is 6 now and I can't walk past him without wanting to give him a squish, I love him to bits! I won't deny that it was very hard looking after 3 young children on my own, but you can get through it.

Please try not to worry about how you will feel when the baby is born. It's very difficult to bond with an unborn baby and even if it takes a while to bond once the baby is born, there are techniques which can help (such as skin to skin contact immediately after birth). When we give birth, mum and baby get a rush of serotonin, which helps the bonding process. There are lots of techniques to help so please speak to your midwife.

Sending hugs

BeyondRepair · 31/03/2015 19:27

Op if its any help I was a surprise baby, huge gap between me and my siblings - my dad didnt want me, mother very apprehensive and already had disabled child, and age was a factor in having another...

it worked, it was fine,

i know what you mean about ages, i love certain stages and hate others.

Underthedeepblueocean · 31/03/2015 19:42

Thanks so much, these are really reassuring. Star

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GreenPetal94 · 31/03/2015 20:03

I was very up and down in my second pregnancy with unmedicated bipolar. Then I was admitted to psych ward without ds1 or ds2 when ds2 was only 6-8 weeks old, with post natal psychosis. Then still ill when I was first discharged home.

There was a lot of worry ds1 and I wouldn't bond, but actually there was no issue. We just bonded when I was well and he was 3 months plus.

When I was pregnant with ds2 I had v weird negative thoughts but once he was born these did not matter. He was just a wee cutie and he was mine.

GreenPetal94 · 31/03/2015 20:04

Above should say "There was a lot of worry ds2 and I wouldn't bond"

AmpleRaspberries · 31/03/2015 20:24

I struggled when pregnant with dd. It wasn't that I didn't want to be pregnant, I just felt so distant.

She was very much wanted after 3 mc, but, as well as being scared, Mil was diagnosed with cancer 2 weeks after I found out I was pregnant and unfortunately died by the time I was 18 weeks.

I had also convinced myself I was having a boy (not a preference, just absolutely convinced) so was pretty shocked when told she was a girl at the scan.

When she was born I remember looking at her and thinking 'you're not my baby'. That first night I thought I had made a terrible mistake and I didn't know how to fix it, I felt panicked because I knew I had to take responsibility.

When people came to visit I was glad they would take her off me for a bit. The fact that DH was head over heels in love with her just made me feel worse. Within the first couple of weeks I accidentally caught her finger under my boob when feeding her and bent it back slightly. She let out the most awful wail and I cried and cried as I felt so awful. Afterwards I remember thinking, oh, I do love her then! That was the start of our bonding (I don't recommend that though). I love the bones of her, and her me. That delayed reaction hasn't had any lasting effect, and, as I'm quite open about it, quite a few people have told me they felt similarly when their babies were born.

wokeupwithasmile · 31/03/2015 20:36

Hello,

I am writing this feeding my newborn. I called both him and his 2-year-old brother 'fetus' throughout most of the pregnancy. It was my defense mechanism in case something went wrong. Now he keeps eating and I am stuck on the sofa whereas I'd like to pass my time enjoying the older one, who keeps asking for mummy. And yet I found my first year with ds1 so painfully boring.
I have learned that I am not a 'baby person'. I need interaction, I need to see meaningful development, conversations, a smiley face. So yes, I did not fall in love with my fetus, and I did not fall in love with my newborn, but I am really grateful now for my ds1, and knowing that I am doing my best now for ds2, knowing that slowly, that same love will most likely be there in a year or a bit more.

I hope it gets better for you.

Underthedeepblueocean · 31/03/2015 21:52

Thanks so much. I really hope it's all ok :)

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JigsawsAreAllLittlePieces · 31/03/2015 21:58

I had trouble bonding. I hated her, I really did. (PND)

Ex-P was nagging for sex again and I was feeling that everyone wanted a part of me and I screamed.

It felt alien, and I hated it.

My HV called in and got me prescribed anti-d's and I began to learn to cherish my bundle of love.

Three months down the line, I would have killed you if you said anything against her.

Now she's nearly 19...

strawberryowl · 31/03/2015 22:02

I could have written your post. I suffered from post/pre natal depression - hard to know which - was sure I wouldn't love DC3 - didn't love the scan, didn't count down the days or see what he had grown this week and I had to accept I wouldn't be going back to work any time soon. I cried all the time. Going on was the least worse option. I feel guilty just writing this. I am with the DC father but he works all the hours to support us so my days were long and lonely and all practical care needs fell to me. When DC3 came I thought he was a horror show - DC1&2 had been model babies - this one never ever ever stopped crying or feeding. I missed DC2 who was still so young. The house became a state, the dog went wild our diet got pretty grim. Now he is the most amazing fantastic little boy and he completes our family. Without him there would be a hole so big you could never fill it. Watching him and DC2 play together makes my heart soar. To get here I put one foot in front of the other and just tried to get through another day. I moaned like hell to anyone who would listen, importantly my mum and the midwives and health visitors but even the man in the corner shop would do some days. The lady over the road became my best friend!If you need help from the medical professionals ask for it- 2 under 2 is hard but it's not impossible and with support you can do it. The hormones kick in and they help and faking it helps and one day I just woke up and somehow it had got a bit better. It's totally ok to be worried about this (I came to realise) - those that don't worry are lucky or mad! I feel for you but don't beat yourself up it's really common to feel this way. (Ps if you can prepare as much practical stuff as possible so at least that aspect is ready).

Underthedeepblueocean · 31/03/2015 22:56

Thanks so much. The support on here is amazing; feel much better.

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Gobbolinothewitchscat · 01/04/2015 20:58

under - I have a 1 year old and a 2 year old with a 13 month gap

I'm also pregnant with DC3. DC3 is planned and I am with DH but I still have quite a few moments each day of thinking: Oh my God, what are we doing.

My experience of the 13 month gap is pretty positive. Both nap at the same time etc. I'm more worried about dealing with a new born and a potentially non-sleeping DS as he will be nearly 3 when the baby is born and not sure if he will still have naps

I would encourage you to throw money at this if you can - I am a SAHM but have a very long-standing cleaner who has turned into more of a mother's help and who also comes for an additional afternoon each week for a few hours and looks after DS or does more cleaning etc. She will also baby sit if needs be.

Beaker12 · 01/04/2015 21:19

I'm so sorry you are feeling like this.

I had ante and post natal depression with my first DC, it took me a very long while to bond with him but we did in the end!

I was certain I didn't want anymore children but became pregnant through a contraception failure. I was horrified and very depressed, didn't feel connected to my baby at all. I got lucky however in that I was seeing a consultant during the pregnancy who noticed something wasn't right. I was referred to a psychiatrist ( which sounds more scary than it was) who I started seeing. She really helped me formulate some coping strategies for after the baby was born ( my husband is away for very long periods). It really helped me to start to feel more in control which made me feel a little better. I wonder if some of your lack of bonding is coming from the overwhelming situation you are in - the thought of 2 very little ones on your own. I'd really urge you to try an talk to your GP to get some help. I know it is so difficult to say this to someone in RL but having someone to talk to may really help. I also had a plan in place, including potential medication, if I was still depressed after the birth and couldn't bond with my baby.

Anyway DS was born and I fell head over heels in love with him straight away and didn't need anything I had put in place! Will never know whether that would have happened without the help I had before, but getting that help made the last months of my pregnancy much more bearable.

Please know there are many others who have felt like you x

Underthedeepblueocean · 01/04/2015 21:31

Thank you so much for your support x

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mumofboyo · 01/04/2015 21:38

I resented my dd when I was pregnant with her. I felt like she'd taken over my body without my permission and that I had no choice but to accommodate her. I felt that her arrival would have a negative impact on my relationship with my ds (which was 17 months at her birth) and dh. I wanted her out but was dreading her being born because I didn't really want another baby.

When she was born I didn't get that rush of love and I struggled to bond with her. At times I felt nothing; and at other times I felt hatred towards her. She was a very unsettled baby who suffered with reflux and cried a lot which made an already difficult situation even harder.

In the end I had some therapy which helped me forgive myself and my baby because neither of us had done anything wrong.

I don't know when I actually bonded with her. I can't put my finger on the time when I could actually, truthfully say, "I love you, dd." It grew slowly and crept up on me without my noticing. When I look back on photos of her as a baby I ache with sadness and regret, wishing I could reach into the picture and give her a proper, loving hug. I hope that it hasn't affected her development, confidence and ability to form and maintain meaningful relationships.

I would suggest that you speak with your gp or midwife and access some form of counselling to help you accept and perhaps forgive the baby for his/her presence - tell them how much you're struggling and ask for help.

MoominKoalaAndMiniMoom · 01/04/2015 21:44

I didn't bond until DD was born. I constantly questioned myself all the way through the pregnancy, whether it was right, whether I could do it. At times I felt like she was a parasite, and I was just holding her for someone else.

She'll be a year old on the 10th and I couldn't live without her. Any doubts melted away and I can't imagine a world without her in it, we are so close.

You have to do what feels right for you Flowers

Underthedeepblueocean · 01/04/2015 21:47

Thank you :)

I don't really feel I can talk to my midwife - I feel very judged by them although this may just be my perception of course.

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Charley50 · 01/04/2015 21:50

My DS was unplanned and I had just split with his abusive dad. He convinced (bullied) me into staying with him, and threatened me with violence if I didn't keep the baby. So I was stuck and frightened when pregnant and DS wasn't born into a happy place. I don't think I felt a strong bond until he was born. Even then I was very stressed and didn't experience the glow that I have seen a couple of friends have with their newborns, probably because of the stress. I find it sad and would never share this info with my DS.
(I got rid of abusive ex when DS was 5 months old. However he is a good dad to DS and has regular contact).

FanFuckingTastic · 01/04/2015 22:05

I bonded in pregnancy with both of mine, but after the birth I had difficulties with my first. I was quite ill following the birth of my son, the midwives let me home despite having retained the placenta and having signs of infection (fever when checking temperature and feeling ill, serious anaemia which I had symptoms of (dizziness and breathlessness on standing, and extreme fatigue), and a blocked bowel which I knew I had before the birth, and begged them to do something about, and they still let me leave hospital without a bowel movement.

I thought that was maybe the normal way to feel post-birth, but was rushed back into hospital kneeling on the backseat of my mum's car twenty four hours later, and kept away from my baby for almost a week.

I think there was a degree of resentment towards the baby that I wasn't fully aware of, because I had to recover whilst feeling very ill, and without any support after the first week home. There was also the shock of the separation, which made me believe in my feverish head, then morphine addled brain, that my baby was secretly dead and no one would tell me.

There were postnatal mental health problems too, and it all ended up in me finding it hard to bond, I felt protective at times, but none of that mother's love we were supposed to feel a rush of.

When I had my second, I was terrified that it would be the same as my first, who after a psychotic break, I finally began to feel love towards. It took me eighteen months before I truly felt like a mum.

This lead me to make choices to try to make the first few weeks as peaceful as possible, I chose not to leave the hospital before I felt confident we were both well, both physically and emotionally. Instead of a day, I was in for five. I took it all nice and slow, went in a week before induction to allow me time to adjust and for some bedrest, I took my mother as a birthing partner to ensure my needs were met and listened to when I wasn't able to ensure it myself. I learned as much as I could about labour and breastfeeding and bonding while pregnant, and ensure there was support in place to help me establish breastfeeding as that was important to me. And I ensured I had some quiet time at home, just me and baby in the first fortnight to allow us space to bond. DS went on an adventure with granny and visited me daily, but with her supervision so he didn't feel left out of his baby sister's birth and so I could cope with them both.

The labour was less frightening, I managed to deliver without any damage, although I still haemorrhaged and needed medication for that, I was able to do skin to skin immediately, with mum ensuring that's what happened, and had baby at breast immediately too, with support from a breastfeeding counsellor in latching. I was given time after first feed to go clean myself and get comfortable, and pain relief for my joint condition which I didn't receive the first time around as it was present then but not diagnosed. I was also given support on the ward by the midwives at night to allow me to rest and sleep, DD was looked after in the night nursery and brought to me for breastfeeds, with a side cot attached to the bed for safe co-sleeping. And of course, when I was deemed fit and healthy with no bowel blockages, I was allowed home with plenty of supervision (daily visits and phonecalls) from midwife who was aware of my previous difficulties, with the house tidied by mum and plenty of easy meal options so I could focus on our bonding.

My second was a particularly restless baby, where my first had been an angel, so there were tough times, but it was also a very special time as I had been so concerned through pregnancy with similar thoughts to yourself OP. I considered a termination as it was unexpected and in the first few weeks an unwanted pregnancy as I was single with no support from her father, and a disabled mum already to a toddler of eighteen months-ish when I fell pregnant. I couldn't go through with it as a previous termination has always played on my mind and been difficult to live with, especially since the birth of my first child.

The most important part of dealing with it was being informed and making positive choices, and having the support of not only my mother as an excellent birth partner and granny for my son, but of the people who were around me during and after the birth. My options don't need be the same as yours of course, but they were all pretty helpful with bonding, especially the breastfeeding.

Don't be afraid to talk about these thoughts with your midwife, get that support put in place, make informed choices, and take any help available from family or friends to help make those early days count. xx

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