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Footballs over our fence

116 replies

thekingfisher · 29/03/2015 12:31

This may very well out me - but well I'm feeling so irritated I don't really care!

Our house sides onto a village football pitch. When we bought the house circa 5 yrs ago the vendors told us there was a match maybe once per month. The reality was that at least one football match is held most sundays for the entire football season. This was fine until 18 months ago we bought a further piece of land at the back of our house which we incorporated into our garden. This means our garden and house plot now runs the entire length of the pitch.

There is a gate right at the very end of the piece of land which we bought which historically was used by the football team and unlocked by the farmer each sunday morning for them to retrieve their balls. The land was unused agricultural land (i.e. old orchard and asparagus field not farmed anymore and mostly weeds) so this didn't really have a bearing on us - plus we had a large boundary hedge which separated us from this piece of land.

Since we bought it we have spent considerable sums of money( i.e. many thousands) opening it into our garden, taking down and replanting hedging, cultivating the lawn, revitalising the orchard etc etc. so it is now very clearly part of our plot.

However we now have footballs coming over into this field often 5 or 6 times every sunday morning. As our entire ground floor is most glass and open plan this means anyone coming into the garden or the land at the back has an open view into our house.

I asked the football manager to knock before coming over - this morning he knocked and asked me to get the balls ( 3 had been kicked over) I said i can but not yet as I was still in my PJ's and it was peeing down. He asked if he could and I said yes. 20 monists later a spectator ( young lad who I know) came round and asked to get a ball - again I said yes. However it then transpired he let himself out of the top gate ( which should have been locked) and then let himself back in two more times to fetch other balls - meantime I'm pottering around in my kitchen when I just see someone wandering around the garden.

Would IBU to basically say that they can only come and get balls at end of the match ( or half time if they're a bit crap and kick too many over)? The Manager said they only had 3 balls - so would I be additionally unreasonable to tell him to buy more so they don't need to come around every 2 mins or just let themselves in ( or worse still climb over the wire fence which incenses me as it bends and its about 6 ft tall. ).

It feels like every sunday morning we are invaded and I have been caught wandering around in my underwear which again I don't think is fair.

OP posts:
Greenkit · 29/03/2015 13:15

Do they have legal access into your garden through that gate or could it be locked pernamently and they can put up some fencing to stop the balls or move the pitch as others have said?

Eigg · 29/03/2015 13:18

How much is a ball? As a gesture of goodwill I might offer to buy 3 extra balls myself.

TedAndLola · 29/03/2015 13:19

Agree completely with AuntJaneMarple. This is completely their problem and you have been more than generous so far, which has led to them taking the piss.

I would be more concerned that it sounds as though they can hop over the fence onto your property if you don't let them in the gate? They will surely do that if you happen to be out / on holiday when they kick the balls onto your property. Unacceptable.

MythicalKings · 29/03/2015 13:20

What do they do if you aren't in? That would be a worry for me.

DreamingofSummer · 29/03/2015 13:21

You are being totally and absolutely unreasonable.

You knew the position when you bought the new plot of land and had plenty of time to work with the club and you now wish to impose new conditions on them.

You could out up with some minor inconvenience on the basis of being a good neighbour or you could get a name in the village as the "miserable old bugger who won't give us our balls back".

I know which one I'd chose

AuntJaneMarple · 29/03/2015 13:23

They may view her as the miserable bugger she may view them as entitled disrespectful trespassers.

DidoTheDodo · 29/03/2015 13:24

Sympathy OP. We live next to a children's playground ("no ball games allowed" notices included!) and older children frequently kick balls over the fence. As there is no direct access they climb over the 6' fence causing damage and seem to think it is their right. I make them walk round... About half a mile!
Anyway, your problem, I would write to the football club setting out what you are prepared to do and request that they do not enter your garden uninvited. I'd hate it too. They need to be a lot more careful where they kick their balls. Being mean, I would probably offer to return them at the end of the season ( grumpy).

PeachyPants · 29/03/2015 13:24

DreamingofSummer have you read the thread, they are damaging her hedge allowing her dog to escape and have stolen her DC toy's, why should she put up with this?

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 29/03/2015 13:25

I think you're being a bit difficult and unreasonable.

TedAndLola · 29/03/2015 13:26

I don't think being a "good neighbour" means allowing users of neighbouring land onto your property whenever they lose control of their toys, regardless of how convenient it is for you.

cansu · 29/03/2015 13:31

Think you are being a little miserable for the sake of leaving gate open for two hours once a week. Surely you can keep your clothes on for those couple of hours? Alternatively you can be a real pita and insist they knock on door, thereby causing yourself more disruption amend making it difficult for your neighbours in the village. I know which one I would choose.

ragged · 29/03/2015 13:38

3 balls is weird, most sides have at least 8-12. They need that kind of number minimum for training.

If you knew exactly when forthcoming matches & training were then you could plan for this, couldn't you? I think must be a huge garden so it's not like they are coming close to your home, bit of give & take reasonable.

PeachyPants · 29/03/2015 13:41

I think leaving the gate open would set a precedent that they have your consent to access your garden, what about when your away, what if they damage something? It's your home and your garden you should be able to use it as you see fit.

AuntJaneMarple · 29/03/2015 14:06

I bet once they know they can't get the balls back until the end of the match, they will be a lot more careful.

Those kicking the ball may not be the one retrieving the ball so not care. Once it has an impact on the kickers they may be more careful.

HighwayDragon · 29/03/2015 14:06

Build a wall, with no gate?

tiggytape · 29/03/2015 14:11

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Wibblypiglikesbananas · 29/03/2015 14:17

This is a harsh suggestion but might work? Pop every single ball that comes over next week. And the next. And the next. Repeat until suddenly, the balls don't come any more. I agree that as a PP said, if they were by a river or cliff edge, they'd be more careful as there'd be no chance of the balls coming back. You could also contact the local PCSO re the trespassing and either attempt to speak with the club manager in a nice way and agree a once a week collection, or have a solicitor send a letter asking the club to cease and desist trespassing in your garden. Or turn a hose on any intruders?! After all, you're just watering the plants in your own garden, aren't you? Not your fault if some idiot wanders in uninvited...

Maryz · 29/03/2015 14:25

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clam · 29/03/2015 14:28

Or, cultivate a 'wildlife patch' of nettles and brambles just inside the boundary.

Are there really people who think the OP is being unreasonable to object to someone knocking on her door every 15 minutes on a Sunday morning and for her fence to be damaged, toys stolen and dog allowed to escape?

Maryz · 29/03/2015 14:33

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clam · 29/03/2015 14:34

"I still hate her, 45 years later"

Mary, love, it's time to let it go! Grin Wine

Maryz · 29/03/2015 14:37

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Binkybix · 29/03/2015 14:43

I think the toys were stolen because they left the gate open before. It sounds like it's adult football. Again, why can't they just buy more balls?

Sparklingbrook · 29/03/2015 14:43

I read the OP and I immediately thought I bet someone will suggest keeping the balls, or popping them.

It's going to be one of those threads.....

CarbeDiem · 29/03/2015 14:47

I think it's fair enough to suggest they buy more balls and inform them that you'll throw any in the garden back over at half time and/or full time.

That said I honestly couldn't be arsed with the hassle myself so I'd make sure I was decent when the matches take place and tell them I would leave the gate unlocked and one person can come in to collect the balls at half time and/or full time and only then - any constant trekking in and out and any leaving the gate open and I would stop that arrangement and they'll then have to wait for them back when it was convenient for me.

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