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AIBU?

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The Woman in the Park

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faitaccompli · 29/03/2015 09:31

This happened yesterday, and I thought I would be less irritated about the unfairness of it, but I am not! So. AIBU? (sorry - this is L O N G!!!)

I took my medium sized dog to the park yesterday. It is a large park, used by families, dog walkers, children playing football, joggers/exercisers, couples wanting a romantic stroll by the river. It has swans, ducks, rowers and boats on the river running through it.

It gets pretty busy, so everyone tries to ensure their dogs are under control.

Yesterday, I was sitting on the bench and watching my dog playing with the other dogs. It is lovely watching them romp around without resorting to violence! She had two balls yesterday - a medium sized bouncy ball (her favourite) and a tennis bal. The bouncy ball IS one that is burstable, but she has a soft mouth, and carries it gently. We have had the ball for a few weeks. The bouncy ball was about 30 feet from me and the tennis ball about 20 feet. Last week, for example, several 4 year old children "borrowed" it to play football as they did not have a ball - and I was perfectly happy with that and my dog was fine as she is not possessive about her toys.

So, getting onto the main story. A woman with a collie type, push chair and young child approached. Her dog immediately ran over to the bouncy ball and she made no effort to tell it to leave the ball alone. It actually looked like a child's ball, was in an area where several children were playing so it was clearly not abandoned. The dog grabbed the ball in its mouth and before I could say anything, punctured the ball which immediately deflated.

I said "oh - he's punctured the ball!" - she said "is it yours" - I replied that it was the ball belonging to my dog. She didn't say sorry - just pulled the ball out of the dog's mouth and left it on the floor! I said nothing. Just wondered how someone could be so oblivious to the niceties of apologising for damaging someone else's property. She wandered off a bit further, then came back. At which point her dog grabbed the tennis ball. I said, something along the lines of - oh no - don't take that as well. At which point she stormed over, telling me that it was a park and to get over myself. I at no point raised my voice, swore - I didn't even stand up from the bench.

I politely pointed out that her dog had already destroyed one of our balls, and had now run off with the remaining ball. She yelled at me that she would get my "precious" ball back. Managed eventually to grab it from the dog and thrust it at me.

The dog then came over to where I was sitting and proceeded to steal some dog treats which had been placed next to me in a bag.

I didn't say a word although I probably looked at bit pained at this point. She yelled at me that this was a park for dogs. I explained that I felt a little aggrieved at her attitude, I had no idea why she was being so horrible to me and that I felt an apology for destroying the bouncy wall had probably been in order. She stormed off again (she was VERY stormy) and then returned with her husband, who proceeded to tear a strip off me as well! I was sitting down and they were standing either side of me, yelling and bending in towards me. They shouted at me that they had been coming to the park for 20 years and had never had such an incident before. I told them (again, without raising my voice) that could it possibly be that they were slightly intimidating as their behaviour was pretty OTT compared with my "crime" of sitting on a bench and allowing their dog to damage my property.

The woman then told me to look in the mirror (fair point - I had been out the night before and not looking my best), then told me she was going to give me one of HER balls. Which she wiped along the ground and then placed on the inside lining of my coat which had fallen open - carefully wiping it in the process so my coat lining was full of doggy saliva and wet mud.

I didn't bother reacting to this (was was slightly in shock by this point) and they went off to do pooh sticks with their child. Good - they wouldn't be back for a while. The dog had a jingly harness. I sat there enjoying the peace and quiet for 10 minutes and blow me down, I heard the jingly harness again! This time I got my phone out - I was not prepared to listen to more abuse and had decided to tell them that I would be recording the conversation and would then decide what action to take.

Fortunately, they limited their interaction with me to glowering and muttering about me in the distance. Their lovely dog then proceed to run along the riverbank, barking at everyone, scaring some ducks which were on the bank and generally not really being under control. My dog was still romping with her mates and having a lovely time.

So - if it was YOU in the park yesterday - this is a totally accurate representation of what was done and said. I did not insult you, shout at you, swear at you or criticise your poor dog handling skills. You, on the other hand, behaved like a yob, hurled personal insults at me, destroyed my property without a word of apology, wiped dog saliva and mud on my coat and generally behaved like a toddler having a tantrum. You were threatening in your behaviour (single woman sitting on a bench with two grown adults yelling insults at her) and I hope that your child does not see this type of behaviour on a daily basis. I would not want them to think that it was a normal reaction from her parents.

Thank you for anyone who read this. I am not actually asking if I am being unreasonable to still be miffed by this. I know that others would have stood up for themselves more, and rightly so. I just needed to let it out!

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Yarp · 29/03/2015 11:45

It is always shocking, if you are a nice, generally reasonable person, to encounter someone so unreasonable. Thankfully it is pretty rare.

I used to take these things to heart more than I do now - I think you do have to kind of feel lucky for yourself and your children. That sounds really pompous, I know.....

Yarp · 29/03/2015 11:46

Do you feel better for having typed this?

Gileswithachainsaw · 29/03/2015 11:47

They sound awful. I hope you and your poor dog can shake it off.

btw loving the image of a lovely park and your dog playing with friends. what a beautiful sight that must have been

Koalafications · 29/03/2015 11:48

This is why I hate dogs

You hate dogs because some twats are agressive in a park? Confused Hmm

Yarp · 29/03/2015 11:49

This may sound odd, but this sort of thing does put me off having a dog. I think having dogs, or little children, throws you together with people in a way that having older children does not.

MsJudgementalPants · 29/03/2015 11:53

What horrible people. As others have said, try to forget about it, none of it sounds like it was your fault, they obviously have huge anger issues to behave in such an unreasonable way.

arkestra · 29/03/2015 11:54

Some people are just not very nice, and get a positive charge off interactions that any normal person would find unpleasant.

I feel really sorry for their child: imagine having people like that as your parents? They can't even suss out how to set clear boundaries for a dog FFS!

Good for you in keeping your dignity: with people like that there's not much else one can take away from dealing with them. Just be thankful you're not looking at the world through their eyes...

IfYouWereARiverIdLearnToFloat · 29/03/2015 12:04

She sounds like a loon & her husband too! I once had a woman accuse me of telling her dog to fuck off while out walking. I'd actually said "aw it's okay" to my own dog after hers had snapped at him. I thought she'd stopped & turned back to apologise but she was aggressively yelling I'd sworn at her dog (despite her having head phones in when she passed me so how the hell would she hear me anyway??!)

I now realise she was an irrational idiot & looking for a fight. There's no reasoning with these people OP. Let it go & enjoy the rest of your weekend!

MiaowTheCat · 29/03/2015 12:21

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faitaccompli · 29/03/2015 12:28

Thank you for your comments. It is always nice to know that you haven't totally lost the plot :)

To respond to the questions:

It is a part in the south east (River Thames)
Yes - I did feel better the second I had finished typing the original post
It is a beautiful park, and well used by the local community - and yes, it has slightly put me off going there again as it is clearly somewhere they use frequently. Having said that, I have not encountered them there before, so hopefully won't see them again!

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faitaccompli · 29/03/2015 12:29

Park - not part!!!

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Catpawprint · 29/03/2015 12:37

I had similar in Devon with ball popping dog owner who got cross with me when my son cried when her dog popped his football

TidyDancer · 29/03/2015 12:38

This is why I hate dogs

This is nothing to do with dogs, and everything to do with arsehole owners.

OP, sorry those aforementioned arseholes were vile to you. It's a life lesson, as others have pointed out, that no matter what you do some people will just always be total and utter cunts.

HarrietSchulenberg · 29/03/2015 12:41

What a cow! Her, not you, OP.
My dog pops balls, and he's also a treat stealer with selective recall. So he stays on his lead in parks and public places.
We did once have an incident when a dog nicked ds1's ice cream on the beach. Took it straight out of his hand and ran off to scoff it. The owner was lovely: not only did she apologise profusely but she also trudged off to the ice cream van, some distance away, to get him another one. Which was much bigger than his first one, laden with sauce, flake, sprinkles and everything.
She was obviously not the mad old boot you encountered yesterday.

tomandizzymum · 29/03/2015 12:44

People like this are messed up

Flowers

Don't stay out of your park because of them, if you see them again and they say anything. Just tell them to keep their distance because you don't want anything to do with them. If they ignore you, phone 101.

Costacoffeeplease · 29/03/2015 12:45

Just as a side issue, it's not a good idea for most dogs to play with tennis balls, they can easily get lodged in the back of the mouth and cut off the oxygen supply. I know of several people whose dogs have died like this, very distressing for all concerned

And yes, they were twats

samithesausage · 29/03/2015 13:02

There are some loony dog owners out there. I feel sorry for the dogs! Lol! I've had one dog owner tell me off for my son being scared of dogs (he was climbing up me beanstalk fashion screaming his head off in fear) and I should introduce him to more dogs. And I know someone who got shouted at because their kid was eating a chocolate bar, this dog snaffled it and the owner had a go at her because the dog is going to get ill. (This dog knocked the toddler to the ground and whipped the bar!). I have never encountered a shouty one yet! Just the idiots.

TheFormidableMrsC · 29/03/2015 13:44

Weirdly, I witnessed a very similar incident recently. Dog owners with an out of control dog that burst the football of a Dad and his little boys who had a goal set up in our local park. The dog owner didn't even apologise, just threw the burst ball back at him, he pursued her and said "your dog has just burst our ball" and she completely ignored him, muttering under her breath. I couldn't believe she didn't have the good grace to say "I am terribly sorry, give me your details, I shall replace it" which is what I would have done. Instead, she let the dog run off to attack other dogs while looking all indignant that she had been brought to task. I couldn't believe it. I think people like that have no moral compass whatsoever, and are the masters of projection. I understand why you are so upset, but I would try and put it behind you, you behaved with dignity in the face of huge provocation. Comfort yourself with the fact that one day, they will pick on somebody who isn't like you....! Flowers

MarshaBrady · 29/03/2015 13:47

eugh they both sound awful.

ragged · 29/03/2015 14:05

They were horrid.
I do think you're bound to have balls often burst in a park with many loose dogs, though. I couldn't fuss over the ball popping that other dogs were free to play with.

punter · 29/03/2015 14:11

Was it Hurst Park OP? Usually have lovely dog walkers and others in there. If it was I need a description so that punter lab can go and annoy their dog.

kali110 · 29/03/2015 14:11

They are complete scum.
They know they are intimidating and most likely use this to get their own way.
You were not in the wrong, well done for staying so calm, not sure i'd have been able too!
She knew she was wrong, she had to get her partner to back her up lol
How pathetic!
Bet she was waiting for you to react!

Tizwailor · 29/03/2015 14:12

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kali110 · 29/03/2015 14:19

This is nothing to do with bad dogs, this is bad owners.

Op would have well been in her rights to call the police!
These people were clearly threatening her.
Great example to their child.

faitaccompli · 29/03/2015 14:23

" do think you're bound to have balls often burst in a park with many loose dogs, though. I couldn't fuss over the ball popping that other dogs were free to play with"

I understand that - and I would not have minded at all had she been apologetic and mildly embarrassed. But she seemed to be angry with me for apparently having a ball that her dog could burst. I know dogs are animals, and it is harder to reason with them and I was fully aware that she had not wanted the dog to burst it (well, not initially, anyway!!!)

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