To think that skinny celebrities do have a negative impact on women and girls?

[thatisnotcoffee]

How could they not? When you constantly have this ideal body type pushed in your face as the only right one and and when size 14 is considered to be overweight then how can that not effect you?

Dakota Fanning is considered to be a good role model for teenagers and young women but she's a stick! How can that be healthy? She's 21 and still has the body of a child.

I watched an interview with Amanda Holden recently and she's wasting away. I also looked up Gillian Anderson recently when I found out the X Files was coming back and I was shocked to see that she's also very thin. I was even more shocked when I looked at even older pictures of her from 10-20 years ago and I realised she was very skinny even back then. I just don't understand how being that thin can be healthy tbh.

This sort of shit just makes me feel like crap and that I must be a hippo at a size 16 even though that's the average size.

its really not every womans duty to be every other girls role model. Sometimes they can just BE, and HAVE a body, without it being promoting a body type as though its a big logo on a tshirt.

Women are not products. Fat women are promoting unhealthy bodytypes, thin women are promoting anorexia. No theyre not. Theyre just existing. In a body. ffs

I'm beginning to think as much 26.2 nobody could be that insulting surely? Er, oh yes so they are...

26.2 no it can't be...

I am 5 foot 3 and 11 stones and was technically overweight. I was a size 12 btw. I am now healthy. So YABU for saying a size 14 is a healthy size.

I am a size 8 to 10 now. So that is a bad role model? Mmmmmm....

Marilyn Monroe was a size 16 and she was beautiful.

She was nowhere close to a modern UK size 16 - she had a 24 inch waist! She may well have been beautiful she was addicted to drugs, died from a probable suicide from 'acute barbiturate poisoning' and the man to whom she willed all her personal effects thought so little of her that he didn't even carry out her final wishes to distribute them amongst her friends, instead keeping them all in a warehouse.

If you are going to criticise perfectly healthy women who happen to be thinner than you for being bad role models, perhaps it is you who need to re-evaluate your perceptions of what makes someone worthy of admiration.

Thin should be normal. Sadly nowadays a large percentage of us are overweight, including myself. I think we've lost sight of what is healthy. I don't think the women you are speaking of are boney or unhealthy role models at all.

I'm 40 and when I think about it people young and old have become shockingly fatter within my lifetime.

It's important that women are seen as more than a dress size full stop but that doesn't look like it's going to happen any time soon. We're still objects either fat, thin or somewhere in the middle.

Branleuse

Yes, I agree. People can be any shape or size. It doesn't have to be a Statement of some sort. It's like the Daily Mail mentality of 'flaunting her toned pins' when it's a woman walking in a street.

I was 12 stone at 5ft 2 once. I was obese. I was obese when I was 11 stone really. I was overweight and had way too much body fat. Granted, there may be the odd people who can weigh 12 stone at 5ft4 and not be overweight but I would think the majority are overweight.

I am slim now and a big fuck you to the skin and bone comment and how you are more attractive than 'skinny' people.

And fyi... a low fat diet is not typically a healthy one.

Bony is gross, eh, op? Well my child is bony and I've got bones that show, so I'm also "not right, surely"?

What if people here said seeing fat, size 16 people was "not right"?! Or said you're a fatty, like I've been called 'skinny'??

Why is being fat the 'real' thing for so many?! Geez, I have a muffin top and love handles. But would still be derogatorily dubbed 'skinny' on the basis of some posts.

I don't think it's skinny celebrities per se that is an issue as much as the general obsession with women's bodies over and above their talent. achievements etc.

Tomorrow morning, no one will be picking apart Cameron & Milliband's appearance, but any excuse to scrutinise women is seen as fair game.

Promoting a realistic view of size and appearance (i.e. that for most female celebrities looking 'perfect' involves a great deal of time, money and hard work) and a culture that celebrates women for more than just their dress/bra/bum size is far more important imho than slating women who may be naturally slimmer than average.

And as for magazine/Internet pictures if we don't buy them/click on them they won't print them...problem solved. My dd has never shown any inclination to read a 'teen magazine' probably because she has worked out they're full of this sort of crap.

Anyone who thinks that eating disorders aren't rife in the world of high profile celebrities is living in a dream world imho. My arse do they all just 'happen' to be naturally skinny! Particularly when you see the weight fall off them the more high profile they get.

FFS, another one of these threads?!

No, OP, perfectly healthy sized women like you mention are perfectly fine role models.

Being a size 16 is not a good role model, as that is overweight, for most people under about 6ft.

Yet another thread where overweight woman tries to make perfectly healthy slim women feel bad about themselves, because it would make the OP feel better if everyone was overweight.

DFOD.

In fact, I think you're just being a Goady Fucker because your suggestion that 12-16 is the only healthy weight is fucking stupid. So here, have a or ten.

I think we should hijack the thread to post all the awesome bits about our bodies we love whether we be 'sticks' or 'hippos' we are all beautiful whatever size. Well at least those of us that don't insult others over their bodies...

You are seriously deluded if you think Marilyn Monroe was a current size 16. I saw the famous white dress she wore in that iconic photo. She was TINY! I am 5'2" and a healthy 4-6 (have been all my life) - her waist was as small, if not smaller, than mine.

I agree mistress!

I'm a stick but I can run like the wind which makes me very happy and I couldn't give a flying fig what anyone else thinks .

Anyone who thinks that eating disorders aren't rife in the world of high profile celebrities is living in a dream world imho.

Who said they weren't?

Particularly when you see the weight fall off them the more high profile they get.

That statement isn't really relevant to the women listed by the OP. All of them have maintained the same shape throughout their career.

Oh, and welcome to Mumsnet, have another

Marilyn Monroe was NOT a size 16 - I have been to exhibitions of her costumes and she was very slim - a size 8 by today's standards.

Anyway I hate this thread and ones like it.

Stop body shaming women. Stop insisting there are body shapes that women "should" be. Stop saying that women should have hips or tits or a tummy or a certain ratio between them. It's bullshit and it's just as sexist as saying women should be shaped like models. Stop it.

Some women are 5' 4" and a size 6.
Some women are body builders. Some women are marathon runners.
Some are six foot.
And some are size 22.
Some women have no tits and no hips.

Stop body shaming them.

+1 for this being a wind up

Op

Traditionally on mumsnet you interact with other posters and answer their questions and points. So far you are just releasing random opinions into the ether with no attempt to back them up with any facts.

Im 5'5 and wearing mostly a 16. Im overweight, I need at least 2 stone off.
You are overweight and sound jealous.

I like my body because it amazes me how strong it is. I can work out for hours pushing myself and lift more than my male friends, I've got a huge bum and thighs but I love my strength!