To never want to get on a plane again?

[TwatMcTwonk]

Just watching coverage of the French air crash
I've always been a nervous flyer, took medication etc and would still be anxious all the way through the flight.

Used to go on holiday as a family, maybe two or three times a year, but I'm seriously thinking I don't think I could physically get on a plane again after all these news reports.

I know, statistically, it's rare to be involved in a plane crash, but I can't shake this awful feeling that it is just happening too often for my liking.

Anyone else feel like this?

"You're much more likely to be sexually assaulted, get cancer, diabetes or die of a heart attack, die in a road traffic accident etc."

but you are muss less likely to be saved by medical intervention for most of these things when you are in a plane crash.
A plane crash will most likely result in death. That's why people get scared. Personally it doesn't help me to hear that I could get cancer so don't worry about being in a fatal air crash. Once you're in a a plane there is really minimal chances of survival if you crash. It's not like a car crash. Or cancer. or sexual assault.

I like taking off, well I did until I read this thread... and I like landing.

It's the bit in the middle that scares me.

It's the bit in the middle that bores me.

thought this thread would come up, and it doesn't reduce the tragedy for those involved.

but as many have noted and some are actioning, if you are frightened of flying, don't fly. Everywhere on this planet is accessible without flying. It just takes longer. So if you don't have enough time to go by surface transport, you don't go. No problem.

for those of us lucky enough to live in Europe, a lifetime of interesting things to see are all available relatively nearby.

No-one needs to fly who does not want to.

As all the 'you're more likely to's are quite depressing I'm going to say that you're much more likely to reach your destination, have a grand old time and fly home safely than you are to die in a plane crash.

I'm with you op. I hate flying. I do it because I don't want to miss out on all the wonderful amazing places in the world, but it scares me. I will never enjoy it. I find I can tune out a bit at cruising altitude, but take off and landing makes my knees wobble. Bizarrely, I will happily ride a massive horse all the time, climb, abseil, drive etc which are far more dangerous. Fear isn't rational.
I do find statistics comforting. Thanks to the poster who mentioned the 95.7 % of people survive plane crashes -will make my upcoming long haul more comfortable!
Thinking of all the people who have been lost today and their families.

The world does feel quite inaccessible to me without flying. I live in the very north of N Ireland. It's a £300 on the ferry and a full day of driving, plus the petrol cost, just to get to the south of England. Or £100 return with easyjet and an hour in a plane.

I'd love to live in the South of England and have Europe on my doorstep, realistically accessible without flying.

Plane crash is more likely not to result in death. Most plane crashes have no fatalities.
If we just take Commercial Jet Flights, then between 2004-2013 there were 407 accidents (defined as one where plane disappears, person is fatally or seriously injured or aircraft is damaged requires major repairs), but in only 72 of them, one or more people were killed.

If I remember correctly, only 8% of accidents happen during the cruise phase (i.e the bit in the middle).

The odds of surviving go a plane crash are suprisingly high.

Not wanting to fly seems to cause so much aggravation though (in my experience anyway)

I'm "ruining my kids childhood" "spoiling holidays" "stunting my kids development" "being selfish" amongst other things.

We went to Disney in Paris a few years ago, I didn't want to fly. Ferry and driving was a perfectly good (and much cheaper) alternative. Anyone would think I'd murdered someone rather than suggest an alternative means of transport for a bloody holiday.

DH really hates heights and refuses to go on the London Eye, won't go for a walk along the cliffs, refused to get on the funicular railway in Devon and the cable car on the Isle of Wight. Nowhere near the same level of derision, piss taking or "you're selfish" bollocks.

If one more person tells me "statistically it's the safest form of travel" or "you're more likely to [insert highly unlikely event] than die in a plane crash" I think I might punch them. I bloody well know!!!!!

The people who were in the plane that made an emergency landing on the Hudson must have thanked their lucky stars. And the pilot.

I would quite happily take the slow option - train, boat etc.

DH has booked us to go abroad to see his mum on a plane. I would happily never do it again.

Getting the ferry to France makes loads of sense and is a very popular option, you can bring your car. Getting to other countries via boat would be a tad dull though.

FuckkityUp I think you mean the odds of not being in a plane crash are good.

Once you are in an actual crash I think the odds of surviving that particular crash are not that good.

"I don't understand these statistics of surviving a plane crash.

There is hardly ever any survivors?"

I think people are confusing the likely-hood of getting on a plane that crashes with the likely-hood of surviving a plane crash.

'The European Transport Safety Council (ETSC) has also examined the survivability of aircraft accidents worldwide, estimating that 90 percent are survivable (no passengers died) or “technically survivable," where at least one occupant survives. Most of those fatalities were a result of impact and fire-related factors including smoke inhalation after impact.'

There's an article here quoting the 95% statistic of surviving a plane crash

More than 95 percent of the airplane passengers involved in a crash survive, according to the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB).

Doesn't make me any happier though!

Stinker I identify with everything you put in your post of 14.21 from the guilt trip dh lays on me, to wanting to throttle those who are dismissive of my fears.

I am due to fly to Singapore on Saturday and then on to Australia 48 hours later and I feel nauseous every time I think of it

for 'crash' do they mean 'crash landing'?
because Crash landings are very different to crashing into the sea/mountain etc

oops Stinkle even (I blame auto correct)

I don't think it is the likelihood of being killed that is so scary, it is the idea of being aware, for such a relatively long time, that you are probably going to die. In a car crash, you may have a split second of terror, in a plane crash it could be minutes, or even longer, if you know the landing gear has packed up or similar. It is also the feeling of helplessness.