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To never want to get on a plane again?

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TwatMcTwonk · 24/03/2015 12:17

Just watching coverage of the French air crash Sad
I've always been a nervous flyer, took medication etc and would still be anxious all the way through the flight.

Used to go on holiday as a family, maybe two or three times a year, but I'm seriously thinking I don't think I could physically get on a plane again after all these news reports.

I know, statistically, it's rare to be involved in a plane crash, but I can't shake this awful feeling that it is just happening too often for my liking.

Anyone else feel like this?

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Gruntfuttock · 26/03/2015 13:22

News conference on at the moment with more details.

Weebirdie · 26/03/2015 13:22

It makes me feel better actually. About flying I mean.

Yes. Surely its of some comfort to nervous fliers that its being suggested the accident was not caused by mechanical failure.

holeinmyheart · 26/03/2015 13:25

Don't read the next bit of the saga then. Apparently the French crash iwas nothing to do with the safety of the Aeroplane. The second pilot was alive on impact. The first pilot had locked him out of the cockpit and committed suicide. OMG those poor people, their terror, it doesn't bear thinking about.

I flew home yesterday a bit apprehensive but reasoned that every crash makes things safer. But now I find out the Pilot committed suicide.
Cabins have been made lockable with a key code on the outside to get back in but have an inside override to prevent terrorism.

Some way needs to be found of dealing with this situation, now it is known about.
Poor, poor things. Shudders.

DuelingFanjo · 26/03/2015 13:29

The chance of being on a plane that crashes because the pilot deliberately descends is even slimmer than being on one which is hijacked or has a mechanical fault. For some reason knowing this comfort me despite still maintaining it is a real fear that any of these things could happen.

I feel so sorry for the victims.

I still don't know how they can be that sure that it was deliberate though.

I am disgusted by the people setting up fake accounts for the co-pilot on Facebook and am reporting them.

Kittymum03 · 26/03/2015 13:50

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Weebirdie · 26/03/2015 14:19

Kitty, its probably best if you dont fly because the last thing other people need around them on a flight is someone who's as nervous as you are.

Just how would you cope in an emergency?

And its the same withe people being given medication to help them through a flight. Just who are you expecting to help you in an emergency?

CactusAnnie · 26/03/2015 14:19

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stubbornstains · 26/03/2015 14:23

I find it more difficult to accept- both knowing now that the passengers didn't pass out, and the worry that there might be copycat occurrences...Sad.

26Point2Miles · 26/03/2015 14:24

Gosh it's not easier for me to accept at all

I know we all differ but as adults we've always got something on our minds haven't we? Mental health issues has no outward symptoms

DuelingFanjo · 26/03/2015 14:25

"The chairman of Mr Lubitz's flying club, Klaus Radke, told AP that he rejected the French prosecutor's assessment that he had deliberately crashed the plane into the Alps. "I don't see how anyone can draw such conclusions before the investigation is completed."

DuelingFanjo · 26/03/2015 14:27

Perhaps it was more a case of a cocky young pilot wanting to be in charge and took the opportunity but then things went dreadfully wrong and he wasn't able to get to the mechanism to unlock the door and by then it was just too late? Though 8-10 minutes is a long time to do nothing when you know you have messed up.

stubbornstains · 26/03/2015 14:38

I assume that he would have said something if that was the case fanjo- the voice recorder had him not responding to air traffic control, or to the pilot, who was banging on the door.

CremeEggThief · 26/03/2015 14:49

I am another one who finds the fact that it was a deliberate action by the co - pilot much, much worse than if it had been an accident. I would rather not know, as it is so upsetting and scary, and it must make it much harder to bear for the families and friends of the victims. Sad Sad

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GunShotResidue · 26/03/2015 15:59

Cactus I think I agree with you in that it's much less worrying as it's an isolated incident, rather than a mechanical fault that could affect other planes.

It's hard to accept that someone would be able to do this, but selfishly I am less worried about flying to Germany next week now.

26Point2Miles · 26/03/2015 16:06

Well planes have always crashed.... Due to malfunction or bad weather. Some just disappear

Some are taken down by terrorists

And we now have a new reason, not human error but a human decision. For whatever reason

Only1scoop · 26/03/2015 16:07

There have been other incidences similar to this before.

Kittymum03 · 26/03/2015 16:11

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GunShotResidue · 26/03/2015 16:18

26point it's not new, there were at least 3 cases in the 90s that are thought to have been pilot suicide, one killing 217. It is very rare though.

GreatAuntDinah · 26/03/2015 16:23

There was one in 2013 too, in Namibia.

RandomNPC · 26/03/2015 16:28

According to the reports that I've read, there isn't any screaming until the last few seconds. Hopefully that means that the passengers weren't aware of events until the very end.

DuelingFanjo · 26/03/2015 17:18

Ten minutes in a plummeting plane and no screaming until the end even though another Pilot is trying to bash the door down?

RandomNPC · 26/03/2015 17:21

I don't think it was plummeting, wasn't it a 'controlled descent'? It would have stalled otherwise. There wouldn't have been any evidence of a problem, although I agree that the pilot hammering on the door would be a giveaway.

Postexpatlimbo · 26/03/2015 19:30

Oh, FGS!!! HmmFar, far, far, far more likely to die in car on way to airport.. By about a squillion percent! Being scared of cars is much more reasonable.

hmc · 26/03/2015 19:36

Biscuit @ Postexpatlimbo

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