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To refuse a "managed move"...

98 replies

MagersfonteinLugg · 21/03/2015 22:25

on the grounds that the school they want to move DS to is too far away?

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WayfaringStranger · 21/03/2015 22:29

Is it to a specialist school?

noblegiraffe · 21/03/2015 22:29

Given that a managed move is usually an alternative to expulsion, you need to carefully consider what will be the consequences of a refusal.

BlinkAndMiss · 21/03/2015 22:32

It depends - is the other school a better environment for your DS? You have to consider the impact he's having on the other students too, a managed move is an alternative to an exclusion so it doesn't sound like you're being very supportive of the efforts made to improve your DS's education.

VelvetRuby · 21/03/2015 22:32

I suppose it depends on the circumstances and alternatives.

SisterMoonshine · 21/03/2015 22:35

would he be entitled to transport?

MsShellShocked · 21/03/2015 22:36

Ya probably bu

The school doesn't want your son

Presumably he doesn't want to be there either (otherwise I imagine a different solution would have been proposed)

So why wouldn't you move?

Why do you object to the distance? Is it because it'll take him more time? Take you more time? Cost more?

MagersfonteinLugg · 21/03/2015 22:38

The school have done virtually nothing to take into account DS s DCs for AS. They have "threatened" this move on previous occasions and I have pointed out that there is no public transport at all from our home to this school.
If I refuse their plan what happens next? Can we choose a school that is closer?

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Hakluyt · 21/03/2015 22:40

Why are they wanting to move him?

MagersfonteinLugg · 21/03/2015 22:42

Just to clarify: of course I want the best for DS but making him do a 30 mile a day round trip does not seem fair to me.
I would be more than happy for him to move schools but to somewhere closer or with better public transport options.

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tethersend · 21/03/2015 22:42

Does he have a statement or EHCP?

Has he been assessed for one?

Have the school asked the EP to see him?

LuluJakey1 · 21/03/2015 22:45

A managed move is usually to a school parents choose with their child to give him/her the best chance of succeeding- unless it is to a specialist provision.

MsShellShocked · 21/03/2015 22:45

You can move to any school that has places. (Ring in Monday and find out if the school you want has places in his year group)

Do that without a managed move.

But if it's a managed move that's different. ( although you can always ask )

If they haven't taken account of his ASD up to now they're not likely to start so you need to move him.

They may be able to arrange transport to the other school.

LuluJakey1 · 21/03/2015 22:46

What year group is he in?

LuluJakey1 · 21/03/2015 22:48

MsShellShocked is right. If you choose to move him to a school nearer that has places, that is your choice and, legally, they have to accept him unless he has been permanently excluded from two schools. You just fill in a form requesting the transfer.

Hakluyt · 21/03/2015 22:49

Why does the school want to move him?

VelvetRuby · 21/03/2015 22:49

Just to clarify, it's 30 miles in total? If so I don't think that is especially far. I know quite a lot of children who travel a long way to their school because we are in a rural setting. I can see it's not ideal though.

quietlyfallingapart · 21/03/2015 22:51

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lemonlavendervanilla · 21/03/2015 22:51

Hak - presumably because his behaviour, for whatever reason, has warranted a step before expulsion

This very possibly means things are serious - or it could mean the school are opting for the easy way out. Easy for them but evidently not for the OP or her son.

In answer I would say YADNBU - 30 mile round trip is far too much, regardless of the circumstances that have led to this point.

MagersfonteinLugg · 21/03/2015 22:52

He is in yr 8 ATM.
He has been officially diagnosed with autism.
I would be happy to drive him to school and pick up but no car now.
The school he is at now want him out because of low level bad behaviour. I say low level because, although there has never been a 'serious' incident, his behaviour has an effect on a daily level.

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DancingDinosaur · 21/03/2015 22:52

Depends on how old ds is, what the new school is like and whether transport is provider. Distance isn't necessarily a problem for the right school.

DancingDinosaur · 21/03/2015 22:53

Does the new school have more experience / track record in supporting children with autism?

MsShellShocked · 21/03/2015 22:56

I think it doesn't really matter why they want him out. The point is they want him out.

They will never handle his autism right. They don't want to.

But many many schools do.

So now you need to find a school:

  • he can travel to
  • has places
  • is inclusive.

But keeping him there is a really bad option.

VelvetRuby · 21/03/2015 22:57

It's roughly 25 mins in a car. That's not excessive. What else do you know about the school? It could be much more suited to your DS than his current school.

lemonlavendervanilla · 21/03/2015 22:57

I will be honest and say persistent low-male feel stuff is far more serious (from exclusively a learning point of view) than something that might be deemed far more grave, on the face of it anyway.

Is it possible to distinguish what is poor behaviour because of his autism and what is general poor behaviour? I know this can be difficult, however my brother is ASD and nonetheless wouldn't have dreamed of misbehaving at school - his condition manifested itself as zoning the teacher out completely ('daydreaming' was appearing on his reports right the way through school!) but while obviously it's annoying for the teacher when a student doesn't listen it isn't actually naughty or disruptive.

Does he have any in-class support? Flowers

lemonlavendervanilla · 21/03/2015 22:58

Low level! Not low male! Grin