To wonder what the Tories will do when the pensioner voters die off?

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So the Tories will do anything to keep the pensioners voting for them like not means testing winter fuel allowance etc but will cut every other benefit and target /sanction single mothers/ unemployed/ sick and disabled basically anyone who isn't wealthy or a pensioner.

They seemed to have pissed most people off apart from the pensioners and the wealthy
Eventually the pensioners who have been protected from all the cuts that generation will die out and the pissed off new pensioners who had their pension age raised and the goal posts moved as to what they are entitled to like bus passes etc will most likely not vote them so what strategy will they adopt then to try and remain in power?

They will target a different demographic the same as all the other parties.

It is the grey vote that holds most sway in this country as they are the most likely to go out and vote, no one party is going to target them specifically even Labour (Shock Horror).

Or did you just want a debate that was solely around 'nasty tories', and not a genuine query?

There will be new pensioner voters to court

I'm under 30 and a Tory voter.

I think there are plenty of young tory voters.

I am with you in my personal opinions about them but am amazed actually how many young people agree with Tory policies. I think the constant drip feeding of a 'benefits culture' has impacted on younger generations. We are a harder society these days.

They are gearing up to attack the pensioners next.
Where else do you think all the "rich, undeserving Baby Boomers" moaning is coming from? It's being stirred up in preparation for cutting those pensions and reducing those benefits.

I'm not wealthy, far from it, or am I a pensioner, however I can make my own mind up about which party do the most overall damage, in my opinion, to the country and it's not the Tories!

IMO a lot of problems in this country were caused by the Labour government, e.g. the involvement in Afghanistan that cost the economy billions, the growth of benefits culture, etc. Any government in power has to make tough decisions which will not always be popular and I happen to agree more with the Conservatives than Labour.

I'm not to far away from pension age and I've never voted Tory in my life and wouldn't dream of doing so.
I think this is just yet another thinly disguised bashing of older people thread.

Justanotherlurker I mention the Tories (and not labour) as it is them in power now making it very hard for people to live. I would say the same if it was labour making these ridiculous decisions affecting people's lives.

Closer to fifty yes there will be new pensioners but these new pensioners will not be happy to have had the age they can claim the pension raised or the other cuts and sanctions they may have faced.

It'snothing original I agree , with the amount of benefit programs on bashing the poor and people adoring katie Hopkins for 'telling it like it is' , people are encouraged to hate others say and look after themselves

The Tories in the 80s didn't rely on pensioner votes.

Just as New Labour in 1990/2000s didn't rely on union members votes.

There is no reason whatsoever to think that the political landscape will somehow be frozen, and parties (all of them) will be unable to adapt.

I lovesooty this isn't bashing older people at all by pointing out the Tories will do anything to protect them

I've often wondered about this. At the moment, older people vote, younger people don't. Is that because as people get older they start to vote, or is it something about the current older generation who see voting as important? When today's young generation get old, will they begin to vote? Or will we get to a point where no-one's voting?

I've had my pension age raised. I think to be fair this would have happened under any government and I fully accept that retirement ages as they were are not sustainable with increased life expectancy.

I am 34 and a Tory voter...

I am nowhere near pension age and I vote Tory.

But more to the point, people's priorities and attitudes change as they get older, and so does their propensity to vote. I don't expect current generations to be any different.

Also if you have watched the Budget today you will see they are hitting Pensioners with a massive cut in the maximum pension allowance from £1.25M to £1.0M which is hitting the core Tory vote with about £50,000 worth of extra tax (25% tax on pension income if they have a pot beyond £1M). And a massive 55% if they take it all as cash. And Osbourne already cut that allowance from £1.5M last year.

And with the increased levy on banks, raising another £1BN.

Still the Tories only look after their wealthy, middle class, older voters is the meme i suppose.

Plenty of we younger ones vote Tory and always have since our teens. it is the best way for Britain.

I'm 31 and I'm going to vote Tory. My family would disown me if they knew but I worked closely with Labour's spending policy in their last fees months in power and I can't give them another vote.

I'm under 30 and a Tory voter.

Same.

I am under 50, looking for a job (but not in receipt of benefits, I am living on money I had saved before being made redundant). I voted Tory in the previous elections, glad I did so and will vote Tory again.

I am 35 and voted Tory last time and will do again in May.

I am 46 and I will be voting Tory.

My mother age 78 usually votes Labour but has already said she will not be voting in the upcoming election.

My female friend age 50 with own business is voting UKIP.

To quote MN anecdotes are not statistics, but it's not always right to generalise either.

I think you'd be surprised at just how many younger people vote Tory or intend to. They just don't tend to speak about it openly because it's not considered the edgy, cool thing to do and they may face ridicule and outright bullying because of it.

And I don't even think the Tories can rely on the traditional 'grey vote' at the moment because so many of the older generation of stalwart Tory voters have defected to UKIP. If you ask older people whether they think this country is better or worse for having the last, long Labour government under Blair and then Brown I think you'd find out why so many of them are voting UKIP now. They see a need for a massive, corrective swing to undo all the damage of the Blair/Brown years, and the Tories just don't swing far enough.

The reason UKIP are here is because Blair and Brown were there.

Im 30 and if i could vote in the uk i would vote Tory. Labour made a mess of the country and Tony Blair ran like a rat in a sinking ship as soon as he realised.