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AIBU?

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To think it's perfectly fine for passers by to use my outside bin?

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ElmerRocks · 03/03/2015 19:16

My neighbour seems to think I should yell at everyone.
Occasionally people will walk past my house, and put their drink can or crisp packet or whatever into my outside wheelie bin. They do have to open a gate to get to it, but my front garden doesn't contain anything at the moment, other than my two bins, they walk maybe one step to my bin, rubbish in, and off they go again sometimes closing the gate
She says it's an invasion of privacy, and trespassing. I think she is being dramatic, they are only using my bin, not casing the place, and I'd far rather they used my bin than dropped rubbish on the floor.

we also have a difference of opinion on kids walking on my wall (it stretches from the just by the front door, in an L shape to the back of my house)
She thinks I shouldn't let them, again I don't see the harm.

Am I too soft on these people, or is she a worrier?

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Eva50 · 03/03/2015 19:21

I wouldn't like it but if it doesn't bother you then I don't suppose it matters.

ILovePud · 03/03/2015 19:24

It's not your neighbour's concern how you feel about people using your bin or kids (presumably not yours) walking on your wall, but both those things would piss me off. There's a difference between a private and public bin and people should take their rubbish home or to a public bin, it's cheeky and I wouldn't want my bin filled up to any extent with other people's rubbish. Likewise I think it's rude to walk on other people's walls, I wouldn't allow my kids to do it and I hope they wouldn't do it even if I wasn't with them. I don't think them walking on a wall will damage it but it is a bit of an erosion of boundaries and I'd worry it would be a slippery slope to loitering on my wall and trampling my flowers!

VanitasVanitatum · 03/03/2015 19:27

As long as your path and wall are in good repair - if they trip they could sue you (or yor Landlord).

No I don't think you should have to think about that or that it's right but it's unfortunate fact!

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ElmerRocks · 03/03/2015 19:30

Funny enough, I don't let my kids walk on other peoples walls, but it doesn't seem to bother me when they walk on mine. Maybe because I don't actually have any flowers out the front, just the bushes that the house came with. Perhaps I'd be a little more concerned if I had nice flowers that I'd worked hard to cultivate.
The bin issue though, we don't have many public bins near us, and it does tend to be more of a problem in the summer when people don't have as many pockets due to not wearing coats etc.
It's never taken up much bin space, so again, that's probably why it doesn't bother me.
The reason the bin issue came up was because I joked that I might put a note on my gate asking people to close it after they'd used the bin ;)
She's not a nosy neighbour (no more than the rest of us anyway) and we get on well, but she seems to get quite antsy over it.

Maybe IABU unreasonable then to not mind, I honestly didn't/don't think it's that big a deal.

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Bowlersarm · 03/03/2015 19:31

It's your property and it has nothing to do with your neighbour what you allow to happen to it. Carry on allowing it.

It would irritate me though.

QueenBean · 03/03/2015 19:33

I would be ok with it too, not sure why it irritates people. Unless people are coming by with entire binbags of rubbish

I would rather it went in my bin than on the ground

Bluepants · 03/03/2015 19:33

It's your property so up to you but I would not want people using my bin or wall.

The bin - I keep my bin clean and all rubbish is bagged so I don't want other people putting loose stuff in it. Pretty arrogant IMO to open someone's gate and walk into their garden. You could let their pets out or any number of things. You might have weed killer on your grass that they walk in etc. I would never consider going on someone's property like that although I wouldn't say anything to the "offenders" though! Bins belong to the council and are allocated to each property. Not for communal use.

The wall - you'll have to pay to maintain it and someone might try to sue you if they fall off it/it hurts them. Again arrogant to walk on someone's wall.

miniavenger · 03/03/2015 19:33

I wouldn't like someone coming into my garden, feels a bit intrusive. Also you may get lucky with bag of crisps etc. but some vile people put dog shit in my recycling bin.

YANBU if you are fine with it but your neighbour is NBU to think it's intrusive or not like it.

Squeegle · 03/03/2015 20:39

It's not the using the bin - it's opening the gate! That's a bit cheeky isn't it?

abigamarone · 03/03/2015 22:35

Like Squeegle, it's not using the bin that's the issue, it's going onto your property.

Would it bother you if the kids walking on your wall were 15, or started sitting there every night?

raffle · 03/03/2015 22:42

vanitas Is that true? It's OP's garden and they are effectively trespassing, how could they sue her?

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 03/03/2015 22:46

A few years back someone put a pooh bag in my bin.
I don't have dogs (but both NDN do and previous NDN had 4)

My bin is in my off street parking area, so whoever did it walked onto my drive to deposit it in my dog free bin.

Artistic · 03/03/2015 22:55

Saw a man put his dog's poo bag in my neighbours bin which was on the kerb after collection - so most likely empty. I was ! I would've hated it!

Jengnr · 04/03/2015 06:20

It wouldn't bother me either. I have no idea why people get so het up about it.

I have a bus stop outside my house. I wish those fuckers would use the bin.

waithorse · 04/03/2015 06:30

I'd rather people use public bins or take rubbish home with them to be honest. But someone would have to walk a good way onto my property to use my bin. You're entitled to your view of cause, as is your neighbour.

PunkrockerGirl · 04/03/2015 06:30

Ages ago a dog walker asked if she could put her bag of dog's poo in my bin. Even in a bag, I didn't want a steaming pike of dog turd my bin so I said no. She was most offended and I didn't care one tiny bit.

waithorse · 04/03/2015 06:32

The walking on my wall would drive me mad though.

Mrscog · 04/03/2015 06:41

I'd much rather someone dropped a coke can in my bin than left it on the pavement outside my house. I would be more about bags of rubbish etc. though. Walking on wall... not sure, but anyway, if it doesn't bother you then your neighbour should keep her nose out!

spidey66 · 04/03/2015 06:43

I often use people's bins to put my rubbish in....better than littering the street. Plus my PoV is that it belongs to the council not the individual. Having said that i only use those bins that I can reach over the garden wall to reach the bin.

charlestonchaplin · 04/03/2015 06:53

Raffle, google 'Occupier's liability'. Everyone has a duty of care to those entering their property. I am not sure the duty of care owed to trespassers is exactly the same as that owed to others but I do know a duty of care is also owed to trespassers.

People trespassing on council property by diving in a pool which had a sign nearby saying, 'no swimming' have been able to sue when, due to the shallowness of the pool, they damaged their spinal cord and ended up in a wheelchair.

charlestonchaplin · 04/03/2015 07:04

Spidey66 does your council not require people to bag their rubbish then? Or is the occupier expected to do that job for the lazy passers by? It's bad enough with lazy tradesman who chuck anything and everything in the nearest bin but at least I have asked them onto the property.

Mousefinkle · 04/03/2015 08:26

Why is it so difficult to carry a packet or bottle until you find the nearest public bin or get home? That's what I don't quite understand...

Yanbu but I would be fucked off just like your neighbour, especially given the fact they're opening the gate to get to it likewise walking on the wall is v rude.

ThatBloodyWoman · 04/03/2015 08:29

It would only annoy me in thst our bins aren't tipped -the bags are taken out.Therefore any loose rubbish will fester at the bottom.

LurkingHusband · 04/03/2015 10:12

When I lived in a London borough, which had wheelie bins, a few civic minded folk (or so I thought ) kept theirs close to the pavement wall/hedge of their front garden. (OK, it may have been to reduce the journey to put them out ...). Anyway, on a walk home from the tube, they were invaluable for disposing of takeaway wrappers.

I always imagined it was a community gesture. If we had wheelie bins here, I'd be happy for someone to pop a chip wrapper in, rather than litter.

Personally I think hanging is too good for people who litter. But I'm just an old grump who hasn't got with modern living.

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 04/03/2015 10:16

That's what happens at ours, bloodywoman. So I don't feel very community orientated when I have to fish out greasy wet chips and burgers from the bottom of my very high bin.

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