to be more and more outraged by latest Jimmy Savile report?

[Livingtothefull]

The more I read, the more I think about it, the more disgusted I am. For anyone who has had a sick and frightened child in hospital (as I have) to read of children being abused in their hospital beds…..that is about as low as it is possible for a human being to sink. Just for that alone I hope he is rotting in hell right now.

And I don't believe for a minute that senior management at SM hospital didn't know what was going on as the report claims. How on earth could they not know? What a disgusting whitewash and a travesty this is. Over £7m of public money spent on a report which concludes nobody is to blame for this??

I wonder if Trapper is going to lose faith in the police force, the judiciary and the Conservative Party when the shit finally hits the fan on these 'friends in high places'.

Responsible managers should be pursued and held to account. But so too should those members of the Government who effectively handed him the keys to Stoke Mandeville. It's been made repeatedly obvious that certain ministers knew all about the accusations against Savile, and yet they still appointed him to this highly sensitive role, and endorsed his free run of the place.

Isn't it funny how the Tory Government have pointed the finger at the NHS, the police, the BBC etc, yet have absolutely failed to acknowledge any responsibility for their own role in the whole debacle? And that's before we even get onto the Operation Yewtree allegations...

Babyroobs, yes, I've read lots on it. It's hard to sort the paranoid wheat from the chaff, but there's more than a whiff of suspicion around the whole thing.

Friends used to accuse me of being a paranoid conspiracist for saying that numerous very powerful people, including a former PM and a former Home Secretary were prolific child abusers. Now look at what's coming out. Some others are still alive and kicking.

PS: MNHQ, please note that I've mentioned no names here, and also that you cannot libel the dead. Please don't remove this comment on spurious legal grounds.

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The police watchdog will be investigating the London Met Police's role now in the sex abuse cover up allegations but like previous enquiries I wonder how far it will go.

I have to say, it is almost as though there is a piece missing from this whole Jimmy Savile puzzle ... and it does make me wonder.

I live in an area where a lot of people I know and knew, ordinary working-class Northerners, had run-ins with Savile, some incidents dating back to the 60s. They came across him outside of medical or charitable circumstances, and they were all age groups: teens, twenties, in their 50s and 60s. Whatever the guy really was, and the jury is still out on that one, the one thing that can be said is that Savile was a very strange man and that this was blatantly obvious to almost every ordinary person that met him.

People talk about "times being different then" and, yes, they were ... but nowhere near the extent to excuse Savile's generally very odd demeanour and behaviour, which was, with some things he did back then, more unusual for that time than it would be today -- and I am going on some of the relatively tame things (considering what has now come to light) that I know about him and things that were public record before the scandal broke when I make this statement.

What I am trying to say is that ordinary people that met Savile knew there was something not right about him; they might not have known what it was exactly, but they knew there was something and it made them very wary and cautious.

What I cannot get my head around is how so many people in the establishment and the media didn't seem to have had this reaction. That is what I don't understand.

Sorry if this post seems a little vague. I am trying to not to accidentally out myself or anyone else by giving examples that could be traceable.

Agree completely, worksallhours. To be honest, even watching him on tv you could tell he was pretty creepy and weird. So how come all these supposedly clever, highly educated people were doing things like letting him run Broadmoor? Either they all had exceptionally poor judgement or there was something very nasty and sinister going on.

They let him run Broadmoor because he was bringing them children to abuse. Because he knew everything and they had to give him what he wanted. Look at the Elm Tree guest house list of visitors. So many high up names of the wealthy and powerful.

It seems almost endemic amongst our politicians. So many names, both alive and dead, and from all parties.

Agreed, Hackmum. As a small child in the 80s, I always thought Savile was 'a dirty old man', even if I didn't know what that even meant. When he ran through my home town as part of a fundraiser, local kids were shouting 'paedo' at him, and that was thirty years ago!

It always fascinates me that he was awarded and OBE, a Knighthood, a Papal Knighthood, the Cross of Merit in the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, and a medal for his services to Israel! He was either very well connected, or had a lot of dirt on a lot of people.

Funny how there's one other venerable UK institution that's very, very closely linked to Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris, Peter Hayman, Anthony Blunt and one or two other alleged abusers. Is that something we're allowed to talk about? It seems the media are terrified of discussing it.

The Jimmy Savile saga is one of he most depressing stories of our time.

I remember seeing him on TV, pushing patients along in wheelchairs at Stoke Mandeville in his capacity of volunteer porter and marvelling at his altruism. I thought he was a truly good man. Equally ironically, because he looked so odd and was never linked with anyone romantically, I thought he was asexual and that he had sublimated his sexual/romantic feelings into doing good for others.

How wrong could you possibly be?

Youthecat: "They let him run Broadmoor because he was bringing them children to abuse."

Four or five years ago that would have seemed like the most outrageous conspiracy theory. Now it seems that it may actually be true. Extraordinary. Imagine if it had come out at the time - what an impact that would have had.

I lived in Scarborough about ten years ago, where Saville lived. It was common knowledge in the town that he was a paedophille/rapist. Everyone told me to avoid him. I heard most of this from random men down the pub.

If random men down the pub knew, then SOMEONE in the NHS knew.

Equally ironically, because he looked so odd and was never linked with anyone romantically, I thought he was asexual and that he had sublimated his sexual/romantic feelings into doing good for others

I agree I think many of us thought that!

Middle - really?

He was a disgusting, depraved and evil individual. Of course those in positions of power knew, but he knew people in high places, and had money and influence to shut them up. He could afford the best lawyers to defend him. But whoever gave him free reign over vulnerable patients and those who covered it up should definitely be held accountable.

Yes, really! He was disliked by most of the locals I spoke to. Saville had an apartment overlooking the sea, but he wasn't there very much. I think he knew that he was thoroughly disliked in that town.

Note: posting from Canada here.

From the outside, this looks really really bad for hte "Establishment" and it's pretty clear they are doing everything they can to keep it under wraps, including the Family Who Shall Not Be Named.

What's interesting is that no one here has heard about this, it's been so thoroughly kept quiet, even by the media here. You have to wonder. IMO the implications are huge.

Lastusercount, they're your Royal Family too, I'm afraid!!!

Theresa May said abuse is runing through society like stick of rock.