to call social services on my neighbour?

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I reported her via nspcc about the shouting and fighting in her home, she lives about me not only does it piss me off because i walk around with earplugs and can still hear it it seems to be shouting at the kid.
I only recently noticed as i saud because i wear earplugs n never paid attention to what it was about until when i took them out.

i reported the fighting/banging to police who didnt do anything but speak to the neighbour and piss her off to which she screamed at me. They said there was no proof.

Then i reported it via the nspcc and the police came wanting to speak to her again i was eves dropping for a bit
Police asked to come in she refused and said shes pissed off
They said there were reports of shouting fighting
she said to them its me making up lies then she slammed the door on them
The nspcc obviously told the police of my report thats why they visited this time
This was start of jan

The fighting/shouting/banging ect has contiuned but it hasnt been that bad until friday and sat
the man was SCREAMING at the kid so loud i could hear through my earplugs and she was saying im sorry and he was just screaming
Same thing on saturday happened

the kid is ten
i reported it to nspcc again

should i just stay out of it now?
im sounding like a nosey neighbour and the neighbour said she will report me to police if i report her to social services again, can i get arrested for reporting to social services?
i have been genuiene concerned it isnt something im making up
the woman puts on a good front acts like shes really friendly to neighbours ect but she is vile

Youve done absolutely the right thing.

It really does sound as though you've done all you can do.

Poor kid.

I mean in reporting it.

I would hope the police reported to social services and maybe they have yet to make enquiries. However, to be on safe side, I would call local council and report to social services myself.
Try to explain why are are concerned for the safety of the child and give examples of things said and frequency of shouting. If you know which school the child attends that might help but SS should be able to access that info themselves if need be.

If nothing else, it sounds like there are anger management issues or the parent isn't coping and needs extra support.

No, if you are concerned, keep reporting. You are not reporting maliciously and you may not be the only person with concerns so your observations may be helping to build a bigger picture.

Ring 101 and tell them what is happening.
Also tell them that you will be keeping a diary of all reports you have made and who to.

Is there any value in recording the shouting incidents? I know they can't be used as evidence in court, but it might help convince police that you aren't just a mean neighbor making stuff up.

I don't think it's worth calling the police unless you think the child is in immediate danger. Shouting at a child isn't a criminal offence.

It is only social services who have the remit to intervene with the family in order to improve the situation.

Well done OP. It takes people to notice for something to be done. Horrible for you though. And of course this poor child. Keep reporting, it isn't nosey, it is trying to help a ten year old.

I wouldn't think you could be in trouble for continuously reporting unless SS had done a thorough investigation and found there were no issues. From what you say, I don't think that has happened yet.

Though in reality I don't know if that is how it works.

Shouting at a child isn't illegal, no, but a child growing up in a home where there is constant fighting and shouting is not on.

I think you need to go directly to SS.

Log. Record. Report.

How frequent is the shouting?

Have you posted about this before, OP?

I would sometimes have shouting matches with my dd, I'm sure most people have, but this sounds way OTT. I think maybe recording it and reporting it again is the way to go, poor wee thing.

gallicgirl

If everyone only reported concerns when they knew for sure a child was in immediate danger, there would be a lot more cases of children being seriously injured or worse.

The OP's job, as a member of the public reporting genuine concerns, is just that - to report her concerns. It is SS job to decide whether the concerns point to a serious situation for the child.

Ring the police during the screaming.

When I had to dial 999 over neighbours fighting the person on the other end could hear it.

This meant it was on any record they keep as proof!

suburban

I didn't say op shouldn't report but that she should report to a more appropriate authority. The police don't appear to have done much so I said she should report to social services to make sure reports are joined up.

Fair enough, gallic.

You should be reporting the noise to the council too.

You are red flagging to SS. If they are also getting reports from school etc it gives them more to go on if they feel the child is at risk. Everyone shouts at their kids sometimes. But regularly shouting so aggressively that it concerns the neighbours is NOT normal.

NSPCC will pass this on as a child care concern to SS.

In the case of illness schools are encourged to not query unless they have reason to doubt the veracity. (96 ed act).
AND to only request proof in cases of doubt. In the case of appendicitis and subsequent infection wtaf are they thinking?

(Wrong thread. Sorry)