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to ask what mn jury thinks about 'adios' / 'slim shot' for teen ds [17]

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mrsfuzzy · 22/02/2015 22:57

my teen ds has about a stone and half to lose, he's not very sporty but he walks everywhere including to and from school, i try to give him a healthy diet but he stays at his nan and she equates food with love [she is about 6 stone overweight] you get the picture. i had food issues but have addressed that and have lost three stone since jan 1st this year since becoming a vegan. ds wants to lose weight and has read about 'adios' and 'slim shot' being possible ideas to help. personally i don't agree with these supplements or fad diets, but he is worried he won't fit in [excuse the pun] at college in sept if he remains over weight. i've told him there is plenty of time to lose it and he needs to do it for himself, these tablets aren't necessarily the answer,
what do you mners think ? nan thinks 'cuddly' is fine. i'm worried for his health in the future.

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avocadotoast · 22/02/2015 23:03

Noooope. I wouldn't recommend those kind of things to anyone, let alone a 17-year-old. They do not do pleasant things to your body!

(My friend used one of the fat-binding ones; they have an awful effect on your bowels and you end up having seriously foul bowel movements. You also lose a lot of control/warning before you need to go.)

Why does he feel he needs to use them? Why not just diet & exercise?

TwoOddSocks · 22/02/2015 23:20

Definitely don't do it. All of these pills are at best ineffective and at worst dangerous and incredibly unhealthy. He'll only gain it back unless he makes permanently lifestyle changes anyway. He has my sympathy though, losing weight is hard! Would he be interested in lifting weights? Or swimming? or any other sport? Good luck to him!

foslady · 22/02/2015 23:27

There's PLENTY of time - less than 1lb a week for him to loose the weight before he starts college. Get him to write a TOTALLY honest diet diary, I'm sure there'll be some easy swaps in there to look to loose the weight.

I'd also be having strong words with Nan saying that she might think he's ok, but he doesn't and it's affecting his confidence, and if she really loves him, she'll help him - about the only time I'd agree with going for emotional blackmail!

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mrsfuzzy · 22/02/2015 23:49

thanks for your advice on the subject, i'm worried about him i just don't want him to take these things full stop, swimming is a great all rounder isn't it, he'd worry about being one of the biggest people there so i'll have to work on that one. he's concerned because his ex made a joke [the bitch]! about his 'love handles'and it went from bad to worse. he started comfort eating aided and abetted by nan. he seems to try so hard but really struggles.

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McFox · 22/02/2015 23:52

It sounds like you have to deal with her first. He'll find it difficult, if not impossible, to lose weight if his GM will not support him.

kormachameleon · 22/02/2015 23:58

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TheCatsFlaps · 23/02/2015 00:07

It's a slippery slope, take it from someone who has lost half their body weight and 24 inches from their waist. His nan needs a bollocking for her part in it, it will do your son no favours.

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mrsfuzzy · 23/02/2015 00:08

korma, i wouldn't normally say that, but he doted on her for six months and she seemed to do nothing but put him down, cheat on him and turn him to comfort food which made it worse, then told him he was to fat and dumped him. i have two dd so i hate the expression but it generally summed up her nasty ways.
mcfox, gm just laughs it off and says he's cuddly, that she's a bit on the big side [never says fat] and that i'm in the wrong for losing weight [am now 5'5" and 9. 5 st] i look 'ill and scrawny' , she on the other hand swears blind that doctors have never told her to lose weight in spite of the fact she has had two heart attacks ! i feel like i'm pushing a pea up everest with my nose sometimes.

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mrsfuzzy · 23/02/2015 00:10

cat flaps, at my heaviest three years ago i weighed in at 19 st, i'm ashamed to admit.

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TheCatsFlaps · 23/02/2015 00:23

Yes, I get the 'ill and scrawny" spiel from people too Angry

I think college tends to be more forgiving than school and hour son will be fine, social-wise. Is his BMI normal (e.g. 18-25)?

Bluetonic123 · 23/02/2015 05:05

Idon't think it's a good idea but surely you can't stop him taking them at 17

SugarFreeforSpring · 23/02/2015 05:07

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EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 23/02/2015 05:18

Adios is a waste of money, won't do anything. Those fat binding ones are also a waste of money with added diarrhoea. He needs to watch what he eats, take responsibility for himself and exercise, and If you can teach him that at 17 you will set him up for life!

BalloonSlayer · 23/02/2015 06:42

Blimey those fat binder ones would be a terrible mistake if he is going to be fed by his nan who won't listen to reason re diets. Poor love will shit himself walking home!

MrsMook · 23/02/2015 07:49

Encourage him to get more active.
Swimming pools/ gyms/ classes and clubs have many people there to assist with weightless. The slimmer figures are there because they have either worked to maintain it, or worked to lose weight too.

Being male and young are in his favour.

If nan won't listen to reason, can he reduce seeing her for a while?
Sounds like she's projecting her own issues onto everyone else.

Jewels234 · 23/02/2015 07:56

Those diet pills are insanely expensive. I'd spend the money on a personal trainer for him, or a gym membership somewhere nice to encourage him to go.

Mandatorymongoose · 23/02/2015 08:25

Get him to try the app My Fitness Pal and keep a log of what he's eating, I found it quite eye opening. It shows you the calories but also the nutritional values - he can also use it to make a note of how much exercise he's doing. He can lose that much before September in a more healthy way.

Littleturkish · 23/02/2015 08:34
  1. His digestive system will not benefit from taking those pills
  1. If he continues to eat a diet high in fat they will make it even worse
  1. At 17 he hasn't finished growing, I wouldn't like to think of the effects of taking diet pills at his age would be- common sense would suggest that it isn't good

If he is willing to have a low fat diet that is needed to take those pills, he'll lose the weight anyway. He needs to drink more water and get out of breath for 20 minutes every day. Stop him going to his nan's house, instead get him to see her out the house where there is no food.

And don't call 17 year old girls bitches- even if they have 'wronged' your son, no one is perfect and you have no idea what her version of events would be. It isn't helpful to anyone to use language like that when talking about someone who isn't even an adult yet.

Fattyfattyyumyum · 23/02/2015 09:08

He's almost an adult. .. He can't blame his NAN for his eating habits. He needs to make sensible diet choices for himself

Lovemycatsandkids · 23/02/2015 12:49

Sorry assumed by your post that he was 13 or such like but 17???

He's an adult. Why are you and his nanna involved in his diet anyway?

Surely he can control himself. It's up to him to make healthy choices and not his nans fault. Stop babying him both of you.

If he wants to loose weight he will but it's down to him and stop allowing him to blame assorted females for feeding him or making remarks about his body.

He has the choice and the power.

OhMjh · 23/02/2015 13:02

Nope. Stay away. They make you poo out fat, and you can imagine how that would look. She may be all 'food is love' but he's old enough to say no and not eat an excessive amount if he doesn't want to.

This is no quick fix for weight loss, just hard work and determinations. Has he tried weight watchers/slimming world where he can go to a group for motivation?

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mrsfuzzy · 25/02/2015 11:15

sugar free, i've lost 3 stone since jan 1st this year, simply on the back of i used to have a very high sugar diet [biscuits cake etc,] but i started a vegan diet on the 1st veg, fruit etc there are so many vegan options when you research the subject and it is not bland or boring, i eat now to feel healthy and because i am a big supporter of animal welfare. giving up the sugar has seen the weight drop off as a result, i only need 1550 calories a day and i feel brilliant and more vibrant as a result. i realised sugar addiction was going to probably kill me, that was my poison that i have now stopped. it works for me . not faddy, just a life style change.

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mrsfuzzy · 25/02/2015 11:17

thanks everyone for their support for my son, we've talked at length and i know he has listened to you mners and me. you are a brilliant bunch !!

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mrsfuzzy · 25/02/2015 11:23

littleturkish you are not aware that this ex girlfriend told everyone the sordid details on fb plus anyone who would listen, she had the front to tell me as well. for the mners who are judgy tell me that you wouldn't be angry on their dd/ds behalf, why do some of you whinge about sil or dil? he might be an adult but he has moderate learning problems and i'm going to look out for him regardless.

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waterpump · 25/02/2015 11:40

these fast fixes never work long term , if he is only a stone and a bit over weight it shouldnt take long to lose , and he will fit in at college , not so much bullying goes on there , think you did quite well by only calling her a bitch if she treated him like shit tbh .

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