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To hate that 'wrath' is CONSTANTLY pronounced wrong.

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RocketInMyPocket · 22/02/2015 11:59

It's roth, not rath fgs!!!
PS regional shmegional

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Gruntfuttock · 22/02/2015 12:47

"I thought they were said as they sound "

Huh? I can't work out what that means.

thecatneuterer · 22/02/2015 12:47

puds: O'Briain is pronounced O'Breen (I think - otherwise my 'joke' makes me look like a tit Grin)

RocketInMyPocket · 22/02/2015 12:50

Well, I pronounce it baah-th and paah-th.
But if you're northern, think it's the same as the south east, in that we don't really pronounce r's?
So ar and aah are the same to me, but different elsewhere (Like the south west would think saying bar-th means you have an r sound)
Think that's the main difficulty of writing things phonetically.
Sorry, going off on tangents again but I find things like that interesting

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puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE · 22/02/2015 12:50

Grunt, yeah reading that back it makes no sense Grin

I thought they were pronounced Dara O'Bree-en and that Dylan More-anne

puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE · 22/02/2015 12:52

choco still think your name is choco vulva what does the dot bit mean Confused

chocoluvva · 22/02/2015 12:53

You say wrocket and I say wracket Grin

RocketInMyPocket · 22/02/2015 12:57

AuntieDee I had a thread about that the other day! Proudly now know that 'segue'and 'segway' are the same thing, and quinoa is keenwa
The only thing I have to say about your grammar comment is shhhhhhhhhh

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chocoluvva · 22/02/2015 12:57

puds Grin - I must change my name. It's such a stupid name - no thought went into it and nearly everyone gets it wrong, or should that be wrang?

It's the wra - sound pronounced (wrangly) as wro - in wrath - hence my pointing out wrap and wrangle.

So the wroth proponents refer to Dara as Dora as in dot not door?

redfairy · 22/02/2015 12:57

DH says it's rath and 'why aren't you women in the kitchen cooking dinner rather than wasting time on the internet?'
He is watching re-runs of Dinnerladies Grin

florascotia · 22/02/2015 12:59

Agree re 'Grapes of WROTH' , but the place name Cape Wrath is pronounced 'Rath' - it's a Viking seafarers' word meaning 'turning point'.

American/Australian sometimes preserves older pronounciations.
For example, Craig is an old Scottish gaelic word that is still pronounced crag by some gaelic speakers today: www.forvo.com/word/craig_elachie/#sco

Maroon was originally Marron (marr-ohn) from the French for chestnut bown. Eighteenth-century English speakers changed the final syllable, just as they changed the French 'salon' to 'saloon'.

puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE · 22/02/2015 12:59

Nooooo! Don't change it! It makes me giggle every time I see it Grin Im that childish

Ah, thank you Smile

RocketInMyPocket · 22/02/2015 12:59

puds Yes, I say Dara O Bree-an as well,
but who is Dylan Moran?
Should I get the Blush face ready?

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cailindana · 22/02/2015 13:01

People in the UK tend to say Dah-ra O Breen.
In Irish, it's pronounced Dara (all short vowels, like the Farah in Mo Farah) O Bree-un.
People in the UK also tend to pronounce Moran as More -ann, with emphasis on the second syllable.
In Irish, it's pronounced More -un with the emphasis on the first syllable.

MrsBungle · 22/02/2015 13:01

I must admit the Craig one does bother me. How can Craig be cregg?!

AgentProvocateur · 22/02/2015 13:04

Definitely "roth", as anyone who went to primary school in Scotland and learned Tam o'Shanter for Burns Night will testify.

chocoluvva · 22/02/2015 13:07

cailin - I heard an American (on the telly) pronounce ceilidh as cay-lid!

DH and I enjoy trying to say thousand pounds in a 'northern Irish' (Belfast?) accent - thoisand poinds . must get oit mohre

RocketInMyPocket · 22/02/2015 13:07

I would instinctively say MORE-un But I don't know who he is
I suppose it's like Muhammad Aaah-lee, when I used to work with two people with the surname Alley.
Then there's the oh so obvious Featherstonehaugh being Fanshaw

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puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE · 22/02/2015 13:10

Thanks cailin Smile

choco Im now sat saying thoisands poinds to myself Hmm

DrHarleenFrancesQuinzel · 22/02/2015 13:12

roth sounds funny to me, but I accept that maybe it should be roth and not rath will still say rath though

The only American word that annoys me is the way they pronounce route.

RocketInMyPocket · 22/02/2015 13:13

chocoluvva That reminds me of when I was little and would hilariously say 'dirty tree and a turd' instead of thirty three and a third.
Looking back I was not a particularly funny child. More than make up for it now, of course Hmm

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chocoluvva · 22/02/2015 13:15

Haha - (or should that be haw haw?) Grin

Try saying cake in an Irish accent. Such fun (to quote Miranda Hort)

RocketInMyPocket · 22/02/2015 13:17

And yes, I may have a wracket in my packet as well

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chocoluvva · 22/02/2015 13:22
Grin

We try to do the Geordie o sound as in 'Oh no' too, but I can't even begin to type those vowels - oo and ah.

(Goes off having embarrassed myself with my oversharing of my dull little life.)

WONAR · 22/02/2015 13:23

another one here muttering "a thoisand poinds" Grin

Behooven · 22/02/2015 13:27

Wrath not wroth (Scottish)
I do know a faux posh person who e.g. insists on calling a colleague "Morton" (his name is Martin) and "Vaicoss" for viscose
She loves to strangle those vowels Grin