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To tell OHs parents not to contact us until they sort their attitudes out?

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Dizzbomb · 16/02/2015 16:52

A bit of background.

OHs parents (mum in particular) have never been the most reasonable of people. We've had various clashes - The first being because we didn't inform them of my pregnancy the minute i took a test (It was suspected ectopic and ive had a ruptured ectopic, i just wanted to deal with it privately if it were ectopic again).

They excluded my daughter last christmas (Not OHs) and didnt even write her name on a card because they were angry with me for informing them that my son had measles and my OH should avoid pregnant SIL just to be safe (I know she worries). (They accused me of lying?). The exclusion was deliberate - they had included her every christmas before this.

OHs grandad died last year. And since then i have noticed a rapid decline in his mood etc - He had become snappy, wouldn't leave the house, everything was a chore - even just taking the rubbish out. Eventually i got to go him to the doctors because i couldnt do anymore than i already was for him and it wasn't helping and he has been prescribed anti depressants. Its helped immensely. He has even been the one to suggest outings 'just for a walk out' which is something he hasn't done since the day his grandad died.

His parents are being totally horrible about it. They skype us. Firstly since OHs grandad died, his mother uses inheritence as a threat, saying she doesn't think OH deserves it, he is useless and will just waste it (We have plans to save half and use the other half for business). I've checked anyway, she doesn't have the right to do this and we'd win if it came to court.

Secondly, They constantly go on at us about 'we must ask for help with money if we need it'. The first time we asked for any significant help they went absolutely mental and didnt speak to us for two weeks because they were ashamed and disgusted. So we wont be asking again. (Then rang and said if we needed any more help we must say they dont mind? Err clearly you do!)

Thirdly, since OH told them about the depression , his mother reacted like he had just admitted to being a crack addict. She keeps pestering him asking why hes depressed. 'you dont just get depressed'. 'And how long are you going to be taking those for' 'youll end up hooked on them for life' etc etc. She's told him he needs to sort himself out and get off his backside and get a new job (His current one is zero hour contract) and tells him it must be his own fault he hasn't had any work for the last week, he must have upset someone or done something 'like usual' (?). She implies he is lazy (If the works there he works upto 50 hours a week?) and goes on as though he spends his days drinking and god knows what.
When he mentioned another place taking on they insisted he should go into their building and ask for a job - my step brother works there, they have a number for applications. But i'm lying about that apparently, its just lip service.

Sorry for the long post. But i'm getting sick of it. The last few times hes spoken to them its set his mood right back. You can visibly see it in his face. He ends up in tears. I have enough without them causing this - im not well myself and am on medication for OCD and severe anxiety. Ive had two friends kill themselves due to depression. I dont want a third loved one six feet under because they cant hold their venomous little tongues.

Next time they start I'm considering just cutting in and telling them to go away and call us when they can have a nice discussion without berating OH and making him miserable.

OH wont do it. But i can't sit by and watch them do this any more.

If i am being unreasonable, What would you do instead?

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Dizzbomb · 16/02/2015 17:41

Punter - Oh thats all in hand. I'm very good at legal stuff and have friends in that area too. I know whats what and she's going to get a shock if she genuinely tries to withhold.

I know they are not knowledgable on this stuff because when his grandad died his dad was going to give us money from a bank account and i had to tell him he couldn't do that without probate and to speak to the solicitor if he didnt believe me (Of course they didnt believe me until theyd spoken to the solicitor).

Which is why i think she genuinely believes she has the right to do it.

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Kewcumber · 16/02/2015 17:41

Measles in the 21st century?

Did you miss all the who-ha about the measles outbrak in south wales a couple of years ago Penny you couldn;t move for discussions about it on MN and in the news.

People pick up on the oddest points sometimes.

Kewcumber · 16/02/2015 17:44

there were 2000 measles cases in 2012 in teh UK

penny13610 · 16/02/2015 17:45

Dizz if you were an anti vac I may have said YABU Blush
Not everyone gets on with inlaws, polite low contact usually helps.
Never ever ask them for financial assistance, it will be too much grief. The inheritance is probably best ignored until it is in DH's bank account and that often takes yonks.
Sometimes you just have to smile and say "Lovely"

Dizzbomb · 16/02/2015 17:45

Sparechange - They definitely enable each other. OHs Dad is far easier alone. He was actually quite nice but at a loss for what to say about the depression. But once his mums in the mix its 'oh you need to suck it up and get on with it' etc etc and badgering abut how long he will be on anti depressants for.

Swan - We have touched upon it, i try not to push too much because i'm wary of causing him more upset. We have agreed that we will wait and see what happens once the house is actually sold and if she starts again we will both get serious with them and tell them actually, we know whats what, you cant do that etc etc, see you in court if necessary.

Last night when they were going on i walked out of the room when they said 'we dont want to be having this conversation with you again next week' and said we fucking well wont be because i'll be the one telling you where to go. He didnt object.

I think i will broach the subject again later.

He isn't a confrontational person and i know without a bit of hand holding he will just sit and take it and let them get on with it rather than argue back and escalate the situation.

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Dizzbomb · 16/02/2015 17:47

Haha penny nooo absolutely not anti vac, was just unfortunate timing that he hadn't had his MMR yet. Very pro vac here!

My youngest son hasn't had his third set of vacs yet due to a string of unfortunate illnesses meaning ive had to cancel every sodding time ive booked them and it really bothers me lol.

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penny13610 · 16/02/2015 17:48

Kew some people got measles because their parents were anti vax, other because they were too young or had proper reasons to not be vaccinated. One group I have sympathy for the others are bloody unreasonable on all counts.
Just checking what Dizz was.

UncleT · 16/02/2015 17:49

Pair of nasty bullies.

Dizzbomb · 16/02/2015 17:49

Oh sorry penny again - Its not us that brings up the inheritance. We've never even mentioned it or asked questions. They bring it up themselves (usually his mother). The only time ive personally said anything is when i told his dad he couldnt take money out of the accounts without a grant of probate.

Every other time its been brought up has been by his mum to use as a threat and a text to say the house is on the market.

We're quite happy to sit back and wait, we know it could take months to sell yet etc.

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Dizzbomb · 16/02/2015 17:52

The only reason i know what he left is cause i got a copy of the will from the probate registry. His parents dont know anything about this though. I did all the reading up research and professional advice seeking myself to put OHs mind at ease when she started making threats because it upset him (Not just the financial aspect but because she was using the last thing his grandads left for him to hurt him with).

We're keeping it to ourselves until the house sells and we see if she actually tries to keep it.

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Dizzbomb · 16/02/2015 17:53

She also weirdly, tried to make out he'd left her a share. Which isn't actually true. I'm not sure if she's lying or if she just doesn't know how to read a will. But it doesnt effect us anyway so i just found it strange for her to do that.

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Viviennemary · 16/02/2015 17:54

If the will says your DH is to have money then your mil cannot withold it. See a solicitor. But if it was just by word of mouth then that's a bit different. I think you should have as little to do with her as possible. She sounds a proper troublemaker and those types never change.

Dizzbomb · 16/02/2015 17:59

Vivienne - I have a copy of the will, i know what it says :)

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Viviennemary · 16/02/2015 18:03

If you've seen a copy of the will and your DH has been left money then he must get it. Get legal advice immediately would be my advice. I wouldn't leave it till the house sells. She must be stopped now and made aware you know the facts.

foslady · 16/02/2015 18:06

She also weirdly, tried to make out he'd left her a share. Which isn't actually true. I'm not sure if she's lying or if she just doesn't know how to read a will.

I think this is your answer - anger and jealousy at not being left anything, and if she isn't getting anything she'll take it out on those who are.

Stay strong OP

Dizzbomb · 16/02/2015 18:10

Viv - It definitely says he gets a share.

It says FIL gets 50%, OH gets 25% and BIL gets 25% .

I've researched and gone through it and had a friend who is a solicitor and deals with this stuff go through it and she definitely can't do anything.

To be honest i don't think she actually will - I think she genuinely believes she can. I'm 99% sure that if she gets serious and we tell her we will see her in court once she actually goes to a solicitor and tells them her intentions she will shit her pants and drop it.

She definitely wouldn't be up for breaking the law or anything - Thats why i think she is either bluffing or she genuinely thinks she can. It's just the fact that shes happy to sit there and use his beloved grandads last wishes as a way to hurt OH. Its spiteful.

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Viviennemary · 16/02/2015 18:12

How can she even authorise the sale of the house if she is not to be left anything. Speak to the people responsible for arranging the sale. Seems strange you're not involved in this if you are mentioned in the will.

Dizzbomb · 16/02/2015 18:14

Foslady - I hadn't considered that angle.

The will does mention her in that it says that if FIL had died before GPIL that FILs share should pass to MIL. If they had both died then to OH and BIL in equal shares.

But the way she worded it on the phone was like it said she gets 25%, FIL gets 25%, BIL gets 25% and OH gets 25%.

What it actually says is FIL gets 50%, OH gets 25% BIL gets 25%.

FIL sharing his share with her so she has 25% is their business but certainly isn't what the will says.

Like i said though that doesn't actually effect us so i don't care, i just found it strange that she worded it like that and then read what the will actually says.

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Dizzbomb · 16/02/2015 18:15

Viv - She and FIL are executors. So they and the estate agents are dealing with the sale.

The will was written a long time before i came on the scene, hence the provisions for any beneficiaries under 21 (As there were at the time).

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TheCrimsonQueen · 16/02/2015 22:03

I still think its all odd. Like I say they are either bonkers or have concerns over your OH's history with money (rightly or wrongly).

Do you think that they might have an issue with you? Do they not want him to have it because he is with you?

Either way I agree you are better staying out if it and letting your OH front this.

Dizzbomb · 16/02/2015 22:25

Well obviously it's odd. We wouldn't be having this discussion if they behaved like normal people.

They definitely have an issue with me. They had issues with his ex which i can understand. But now im wondering if they would have had an issue anyway. They've had an issue with me since i got pregnant and didn't tell them immediately. Before that they were nice as pie.

Having concerns over money would be more understandable if they had the same concerns over his brother - who like i said, was exactly the same as him in his younger days. Niether have been like it for a long long time - we're talking normal 18 - 21 year old lads out drinking stuff, absolutely nothing major - And if there were anything major she'd have brought it up when making threats. She hasn't. She just accuses him of wasting money and buying 'gadgets' - We hardly ever buy gadgets. The last gadget we bought was a mobile phone for me because i didn't have one.

Either way, i'm not sure why you're stuck on the financial aspect. It's not that thats the real issue because even if OH were an irresponsible tit who was going to piss 30/40k up the wall, It still wouldn't be her place to dictate - She is not above the law. I could walk into a court room with OH and explicitly tell them we plan to ditch the kids and go on a month long bender and literally drink the money and we would still be sided with, Because it is not her money to keep or dictate. The money aspect is more the using to hurt him with - It's using a beloved family members last wishes as a stick to beat my other half with.

It's their treatment of him, the emotional side. Constantly belittling him for no reason and calling us liars, having double standards - I mean, i'm entitled to my privacy. I nearly died for gods sake. I thought that was going to happen again and all they could do was scream and shout because we hadn't told them the minute we got a positive test?

Yet they wouldn't dream of doing that to his SIL who kept hers secret for longer because she had a miscarriage.

Nagging at him about depression, insisting 'you dont just get depressed for no reason' and badgering him about when he will be coming off anti depressants (He's only been on them a few weeks!) and acting as though he'd just told them he's started a crack habit.

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Dizzbomb · 16/02/2015 22:38

I think you're right though, i think im just going to stay out of it and continue offering emotional support to OH. As much as i really want to give it them with both barrells i think you're right it needs to come from him.

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rinabean · 17/02/2015 17:23

Kill them

They sound awful though seriously. Taking it out on a little girl is low and proves what they're like. They're not nice people in any way.

MrsFlorrick · 17/02/2015 17:54

Awful toxic parents (I have one).

Your DHs depression probably stems from their niggling and prodding.

With red to grand dads will and estate. If they are Executors and threatening to with hold money. Get onto free advice from CAB. They cannot do this and can actually be removed as Executors for even suggesting it! If you're able to record them threatening this then further action can be taken to remove them and get an independent solicitor to act instead.

Get advice now before your DHs toxic parents steal his inheritance under the guise of his depression.

And even if you and DH wanted to piss that money up the wall or spend it on wine women and song then it is none of the executors business.

Get legal advice from CAB right now!!!

grannytomine · 17/02/2015 18:22

I have a friend whose parents always say she has a problem with money. Her sister is perfect. In fact her sister has no money problems because they clear all the debt she runs up, my friend gets no help, they wouldn't even babysit for her.

Familes can be very odd.

Next time she says she will withhold the money why don't you laugh and say something like, "Well if you could do that but obviously you can't becase grandad left it in his will." Might make her think.

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