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Burglary/Recovery/Police related (long, sorry)

29 replies

Smarterthantheaveragebeaver · 09/02/2015 18:16

Sorry if this is long and rambly but I'm really annoyed and have no one to vent to. I know the police are busy etc. etc. but what I've just been told has made me fume and DH is furious.

So as not to drip feed: Our house was burgled 4-5 years ago. All my jewellery, ipod, phone,cash in the house, etc, were taken and DH’s pride and joy fancy bicycle was stolen. We live about 4-5 miles away from a really rough part of town, so DH spent a considerable amount of time riding around this area (on my bike) on the lookout for his bike. About a month after it was stolen, he saw it. A teenager/early twentysomething lad was sitting on it, he was with a gang of other lads and a couple of Rotty/Staffy type dogs on leads with them, hanging about smoking weed outside a house, so DH just rode home and phoned the police to tell them. Police just said it could be anyone of X number of people in that road. We never heard anything back from them.

DH and I beefed up security around the house, have a monitored alarm and panic buttons installed. We’re both at home all day and night at the moment, DH is retired and I'm recuperating after abdominal surgery.

Last Thursday afternoon, DH and I both in the living room watching Escape to the Country when there’s a knock at the door. There's a sixty something man wanting to know if I wanted to have milk delivered, he’s looking for new customers as all of his current ones are elderly and or dying Hmm I said no thanks, thought nothing more of it.

Went into our garage last Friday, mid to late morning, to discover my bike had disappeared. Nothing else gone, no damage, no sign of forced entry. The only access to the house is either over the 6 ft rear fence, about 50m away, then up the garden in full view of the living room, or over the neighbour’s side wall and across a conservatory roof. There’s no marks or prints to indicate anything coming over that. DH called the police, and someone came out within an hour to take a statement.

DH and I buy a new bike on Saturday, from a shop on the high street that DH has bought all our bikes from over the last 25 or so years. DH goes out this morning, saying he wants the bicycle shop to sort out something to do with the gearing and would be back in an hour. Whilst he’s out, he decides to ride past the house where he last saw his first bike 4-5 years ago. Guess what’s propped against the wall whilst a twentysomething lad is locking his front door? My bike, the very one that disappeared last week. So DH gets on the pavement, grabs it, keeps going, and doesn’t look back. Lad shouts "Ay where are you going with that"? To which DH says "I'm taking it home." This lad doesn't chase him.

DH drops bike off at bicycle shop on the way home. They check the frame number, it’s definitely my bike. He gets home and calls the police, on the office number given by the PC who took the statement, explains that he’s recovered our stolen bike, and where from. Also mentions that it was recovered from outside the same property that he last saw the first bike to go missing.

So the police basically say thanks for letting us know, the PC dealing is off shift until Wednesday and no further action can be taken until then. Not even coming out to take fingerprints off the bike.

Now, I wasn’t expecting an armed response unit, helicopter and umpteen riot vans to be called out, but AIBU to think that the Force could stretch to someone covering his shift and going round to take a look, before the little scrote has the opportunity to get rid of everything else he’s nicked over the last few years. I'm away from work - someone is covering my job, I'm a secretary ffs!

Also, DH said that the house where he found the bike has a for sale on the front wall. WIBU to call the estate agent to arrange a viewing and have a look around myself? There’s no chance of me being recognised by anyone who may be there.

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ClashCityRocker · 09/02/2015 18:23

If the original stuff went missing 4-5 years ago, I'm afraid it's very unlikely it will still be on the premises.

You have my sympathy though - we were burgled last year whilst we were in the house. Horrible horrible feeling. Police came out, but there wasn't anything to suggest who it might have been, so there really wasn't much they can do.

I can see why you're frustrated though, surely they could nick him for the recent theft?

Smarterthantheaveragebeaver · 09/02/2015 18:33

Oh I know I'll never see my lovely jewellery again. Clash , it's just the thought that this scrote, presumably the same one that burgled us and, I would imagine, countless other people, probably has god knows what amount of stolen gear in the house, the police have been told that the occupier was seen in possession of stolen property and they do zilch about it.

People are coming out to see about installing CCTV tomorrow. Never thought Id have to do that.

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wakeupandsmellthecoffee · 09/02/2015 18:33

Oh go have a look round you have to .I know I couldn't resist

DoorsAndWater · 09/02/2015 18:59

Really sorry to hear about your burglary, for extra security, you can also register any belongings e.g. Mobiles, jewellery, bikes etc on the national database www.immobilise.com you can create your own personal account and then if anything is recovered, it can be traced promptly back to you, I know the recovery aspect of your belongings hasn't been great in this instance but hope this helps

Bailey101 · 09/02/2015 19:00

Little fuckers!! This sort of shit makes me so mad!! Who the hell do they think they are, stealing from people who work hard for their stuff because they're too lazy and moronic to do the same Angry

I had my house burgled a few years back, we knew who did (as did the police) but no one was ever punished for it. It fucking sucks, you havey every sympathy.

angelohsodelight · 09/02/2015 19:08

Take a friend and go look!

laughingmyarseoff · 09/02/2015 19:27

I'd take a look, but they at the same time if I meant the thieving little shit I might be tempted to break his nose so perhaps not- how well can you hold in your emotion if you see the thief?

Smarterthantheaveragebeaver · 09/02/2015 19:43

Thanks Doors

Given that the local police are signed up to immobilise, I'd have thought that they might have mentioned it to us after the first time Hmm

Laughing - It would probably be the estate agents doing the viewing, so no worries for his nose. Yet.

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DoorsAndWater · 09/02/2015 20:47

Yes it would have been an idea! It's promoted widely here but don't know what the take up is like

Smarterthantheaveragebeaver · 09/02/2015 20:53

Well, as Im bored this evening and have nothing better to do, I've had a look at the inside of the house on Rightmove (quite nice actually). Downloaded the title register from the Land Registry, discovered the name of the owner, had a look at 192. com to see who lives there, then Googled the male occupant.

First hit on google is a report in the local paper from 2009 where Mr Scrote, then aged 15, and his gang of 7 other friends had all been given ASBOS for, as the hysterical local rag calls it, a campaign of terror "starting bonfires, throwing missiles, lobbing stones and even whacking someone with a plank of wood as they wreaked havoc".

Facebook reveals him and his partners in crime (open profiles, naturally) to be semi literate gobshites who mainly post stuff like "fuk da poleece" etc.

I am deffo going round to this house to see if his mums still got my diamond earrings and bracelet. Im going with the biggest friend that I can find in my head I am, anyway Grin

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TeddyBee · 09/02/2015 21:00

Go! I would absolutely go and have a look if nothing else. They can't link you to anything or know that you're not buying a house :)

jellymaker · 09/02/2015 21:10

I'd go. But make up your mind how you will respond if you do see your things there before you go. You never know you might just be able to nick it back.??

SaucyJack · 09/02/2015 21:16

See.... this is why I don't believe he fallen crime statistics at all. I don't believe levels of minor crime are going down for one second- more that police aren't even bothering to file reports for anything short of a murder.

Mocheenee · 09/02/2015 21:20

I would love to see you go further .....put in an offer on the house, then string them along as far as you can before 'pulling out' of the sale!!
Scumbags.

Smarterthantheaveragebeaver · 09/02/2015 21:26

I'll phone the agents in the morning Wink

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SquinkiesRule · 09/02/2015 22:02

Shamelessly place marking I can't wait to find out find out how the house viewing goes. Grin

SummerHouse · 09/02/2015 22:34

Call 101 and ask to speak to the duty inspector to make a complaint. Good luck and I have my fingers crossed for a better response. Do not book a viewing as interested as I am in the outcome as you could put yourself at risk.

PulpsNotFiction · 09/02/2015 22:42

I'd at least go armed with a bag of prawns to hide behind the back of the bed Grin

worksallhours · 09/02/2015 22:42

You have my sympathy, op.

One of my friends had his bike stolen, and then saw it for sale on gumtree. He called the police about it, and they told him not to approach the seller under any circumstances, not even to just buy it back -- apparently, the seller didn't realise how valuable it was, and it would have been easier for my mate just to buy it from him than have to replace it with a cheaper model.

HelenaDove · 10/02/2015 00:28

Saucy you have a point We had an attempted break in on the 13th December. Police didnt file it as such and didnt want to count it as an attempted break in. Someone attempted to pick our lock while we were out.

BoomBoomsCousin · 10/02/2015 00:39

Reports of falling crime are based in British Crime Survey results, not crime as recorded by police. British Crime survey use consistent methodology and randomized samplings, so statistically they're fairly sound.

OP so sorry about your jewellery and bikes. Hope the lad is moving a long way off (though not near me or anyone else on MN!) with his parents and not left hanging around the area.

hodgepodgepanda · 10/02/2015 00:44

It's always the case with bikes & police tbh , I have an experience I'll share with you

Dp had his bike stolen from our front yard it was locked up and had only been left their an hour at most , called the police told them & they came out the next day and took a few more details & said they would be intouch .
A few weeks later Dp shouted me out front and low and behold his bike was leant against the wall opposite our house (bloke had just nipped inside by the looks of it) so I marched over and took it back , the bloke wasn't half confused as to where it had gone and had the audacity to contact the police saying his bike had been stolen .

All the while I had rung the police and said I had retrieved my partners bike from the thief , they made me give a description of the bike again and they said well we have just had a report of this bike been stolen & told me to return it to its rightful owner
Hmm
I pointed out I could prove it was my Dps bike as It was stamped and also marked with one of those smart water pens also had glow in the dark bear stickers on
They sent two police men round and it took a good while for me to convince them I weren't a lunatic , they even threatened me with arrest for stealing the dam thing !!

All true , wish I were bloody lying as it just goes to show what it's like with bikes (police just don't care) .

MoanCollins · 10/02/2015 00:48

Actually the only surprise I had in that story was that they didn't come and arrest your DH for theft for stealing the bike back. After all he's admitted it, would have been a conviction for the numbers in the clear up rate.

People who believe that the police are there to protect ordinary people are very wrong. They are there to protect the state and the apparatus of the state. (Although sometimes they don't like the party in power). They provide enough security to ordinary people to stop us rebelling but as little as they canvey away with.

They're mostly concerned with making sure people who have lots of money can keep hold of it. I don't think you have enough money to make it into their priorities list. Don't take it too hard, most of the rest of us don't either. And it could be a lot worse, it's been reported this week they ignored thousands of people's daughters being raped and abused in Rotherham. A bike is getting off lightly.

MoanCollins · 10/02/2015 00:49

Not bikes hodge everything.

hodgepodgepanda · 10/02/2015 00:58

It was me that 'stole' the bike back & they did threaten to arrest me .

Oh I know ordinary people are at the bottom of the pecking order where any kind of authority are concerned