thinking two men walking abreast would move for a ladee

[Datahub]

Or anyone really, I suppose. Walking today on a path to the hospital tiny violin and they just didnt, I was PUSHED ( gasp) to the side as they careered on through.

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I do have a life/grip and get out more than i should
this doesn't really matter, no, but its a website where people chat about stuff.
I probably AM an entitled bitch etc etc

I think there are selfish, self important twats of both genders

I think this is basically true.

YABU in that is has nothing to do with being a woman and them men. YABU by not asking them to move aside to let you pass.

YANBU for being annoyed by that kind of behaviour.

BUT MY HAIR

I am a One Woman One Way System....sometimes fixing them with a steeley glare works, sometimes you have to plough on doing the middle distance thing described by mrsbert upthread

Even been know to stop dead and stand like a rock in the river and let them all woosh around and past, but I never get barged.

I did my "training" in Central London, so I do think that helps! :o

No, I wouldn't expect them to, but I would think they were bloody rude if they didn't. I had one lot of 3 guys in business suits being all "I'm important and you're not even worth my notice" when dd was v young in a pushchair. They actually walked over the pushchair. And then gave me filthy looks. I'd actually stopped in order to give them a chance to step to the side, but no. They're all far too important.

These days I just tell them straight how rude they are, but I'm in a mobility scooter and thus even more invisible.

Ugh, I know what you mean. Live in a built up area, busy roads filled with cutthroat drivers speeding and parking all over the damn pavements, so just to make things worse half the pedestrians are knobs as well.

I do find it tends to be late teens/early 20s lads who are most likely to be 2-3 abreast, but also moronic couples who can't bear to stop holding hands with their shnookums for 30 fucking seconds.

I just stare straight ahead and go for the middle so that the outer dick can end up in the road and the inner dick can end up in the wall if they don't move. Rarely end up making physical contact in the end, they tend to chicken out at the last moment.

I try to be a good pedestrian myself, often push DS's buggy into people's driveways so others can get past and smile/nod to people who make room (can't say thanks, I get shy talking to randoms and end up squeaking).

"Theres a proper study to be done here but you would need CCTV footage!"
I think I actually have seen footage, years ago! It was demonstrating how people moved on a busy street (somewhere really busy, like Oxford Street on a Saturday afternoon). The camera was fixed about twenty feet above head height looking straight down, so you could track individual 'heads'. It showed how few people walked in straight lines, everyone pretty much was veering constantly. The point the programme was making was that all these course alterations were being carried out unconsciously. By both men and women. SO the few 'slammers' really are the few.

How's the hair today Datahub ? still swishy?

mine needs washing and then it will be very shiny and pretty and people will have to stop in their tracks as my hair denands attention.
it's the only way to beat the hand-holding/glued-at-the-shoulders crowd!

*demands even

it needs a trim. After that I will be forumlating the great hair vs freedom of movement debate

So rude, obviously more so if you have great hair. I have a special passive aggressive way of dealing with it, I just make sure that my bag hits them on their side.

In the good old days, wind up merchants were at least amusing.

0/10

It's a useful thread though, Chipping. I'm going to try the no eye contact technique.

i am going to STAND PROUD in future.
I did move. the minute i did i thought 'WTAF am I doing ?'

I've been dealing with this all of my adult life. I suppose it might be a gender based behaviour, it is most definitely a size thing. I'm short and I realised years ago that nearly anyone larger than me naturally assumes that I will make way for them. I actually conducted my own "manslamming" experiment when I was living in London, I stopped "standing my ground" in the end because it was too exhausting to collide with a dozen people (mostly men... in suits...) on my morning commute. It's easier to move around people anyway as I walk insanely fast for my height, my 6'3" DH always complains he can't keep up with me.

Theoratician - I take issue with your claim that women are less likely to let other drivers in front of them. I live in California and absolutely NO ONE lets other drivers in front of them. Equal opportunity arseholes on the road here!

Men don't make way for women

Sorry but that's complete nonsense. I'm a man and give way to everyone, even poor people

Since reading about the ridiculous phenomena of 'manslamming' (ugh!) I started to look out for it and have concluded that it's complete claptrap.

Manslamming Link

but comito my hair looked AMAZING

Datahub

In that case these guys were fools. If any normal man caught sight of your amazing hair then they would've dropped to their knees and decried "we're not worthy"

datahub I had great hair today too so I flicked it as I walked towards two men on the pavement and they parted like the red sea. WIN.

I read a theory that most of the dodging is pretty much subconscious, so if you flick your eyes briefly in the direction you are planning on moving, those oncoming will move appropriately. Seems to work when it's really busy.

(And then of course there are always the tw*ts who expect you to merge with walls and stationary objects too magically spring out of their way. Those are fun though when you have to stop in front of them and get to point out how you don't seem to have those abilities after all. :-D )

(Have always had to flick my eyes, mostly have bad hair days when town is very busy, alas)

Dakiara - I think it's a somewhat subconcious two way street as well, I'm used to making way so I'm sure I send signals unintentionally. The thing that does drive me crazy though, especially as I live downtown in a large city (where a certain huge corporation is headquartered,) are the gangs of employees of said corporation that roam the streets in the lunchhour. Always in groups of 8 at least, they take up the entire sidewalk and seem oblivious to anyone walking towards them in the opposite direction. I've taken to stopping entirely, they just walk around me on both sides.

COMITO BEATCH ;)

Talking of eye action, any group of sulky teens outside a shop need only a brief look of recognition to not be intimatading

at roaming employees

I imagine them like the stampede in the Lion King that kills Mufasa