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Advance apologies - a spelling one!

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TheListingAttic · 30/01/2015 15:08

Okay, I'm being one of those posters, and am thereby effectively basting myself and willingly stepping onto the grill for a flaming.

But: when did this "ect" business start?! Every third post I read these days is "ect" this and "ect" that. It's "etc", people! E-T-C! For "et cetera"! I'm developing a nervous twitch every time I see it, and am actually going to pop before too long.

I'm done. Unleash the pedant-strength flame throwers.

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pbwer · 30/01/2015 16:14

Easy typo. I used to type 'teh' for 'the' all the time if I was in a hurry

TheListingAttic · 30/01/2015 16:14

I would like to congratulate you for having so few concerns in your life that you find time to concern yourself regarding other people's spelling.

And, of course, being one of those OPs I was inviting one of these posters. Sigh.

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TheListingAttic · 30/01/2015 16:15

And have now added italic/bold inconsistency to my heinous crime of writing a lighthearted post about my trivial grammar niggles. Oh, the humanity!

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iwanttogotothechaletschool · 30/01/2015 16:19

My own nervous twitch start when people write 'chest of draws' , it's a drawer for crying out loud!

NetballHoop · 30/01/2015 16:21

For some reason I keep seeing no one written as noone which irrationally annoys me.

For a bit of fun have a look at this restaurant sign. Grin

Advance apologies - a spelling one!
editthis · 30/01/2015 16:21

TheListingAttic, will you - or someone - please think of the children?

[And while we're at it, can anyone tell me how to produce an en dash on an iPhone?]

MaidOfStars · 30/01/2015 16:22

I'm developing a nervous twitch every time I see it, and am actually going to pop before too long

I don't think this is an Oxford comma.

I like "&c".

MaidOfStars · 30/01/2015 16:23

Bold fail.

editthis · 30/01/2015 16:24

To boldly go, &c., Maid.

MaidOfStars · 30/01/2015 16:24

And while we're at it, can anyone tell me how to produce an en dash on an iPhone?

Yes. Press and hold the regular "-" key and you'll get a pop up of appropriate alternatives. Slide along to the long one. This tip applies to adding accented vowels and so on.

editthis · 30/01/2015 16:26

Oh my days! Em dashes too. You're my hero, Maid.

#grammarlolz

Sternin · 30/01/2015 16:32

I see "ect" a lot on Facebook. Also "here, here" instead of "hear, hear" (an understandable mistake, but still irritating!)

I also see a lot of people using commas for ellipses or longer pauses (like this,,,,, instead of like this!.....) which I'm completely baffled by.

MaidOfStars · 30/01/2015 16:38

What is the appropriate usage of the various dash lengths. I always change Word &c if it tries to correct my dash length.

MaidOfStars · 30/01/2015 16:38

And a ? fail there.

TheListingAttic · 30/01/2015 16:38

They're not Oxford commas. I was trying to sidestep that issue to play down the fact I'd mislabelled them - doesn't exactly help my case!

I prefer to think of them as punctuational flourishes!

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silveroldie2 · 30/01/2015 16:45

Agree with all of the above but NOTHING is as bad or comes close to being as wrong as could of/would of/should of. Despite people continually pointing out the error it still proliferates on here and my toes curl under with irritation.

editthis · 30/01/2015 16:50

Basically, you don't want to use a hyphen (-) if you mean to write a dash (– [en] or — [em]), as I did above. So if your computer is extending them, it is probably correct (though you are most wise to challenge the authority of the machine).

The publication I work for uses en dashes exclusively, as ems look rather old-fashioned in this country, but certainly American punctuation rules than ens and ems have different usage.

I boycott the em for no reason other than it makes me feel racy.

TheListingAttic · 30/01/2015 16:52

Disagree silveroldie2, the absolute worst is "alot". But that's been around a while, "ect" seems to have sprung up all of a sudden - and my list of spelling/grammar bugbears now needs an additional sheet!

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TheListingAttic · 30/01/2015 16:53

I boycott the em for no reason other than it makes me feel racy.

Keep it clean, please! We're well shy of the watershed! Shock

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SaucyJack · 30/01/2015 16:56

My favourite is good manors cost nothing. Closely followed by the "Chester draws" which I can only assume is what all the chavs on my local FB selling page store their shell suits in.

MaidOfStars · 30/01/2015 16:57

Thanks, editthis.

I am intellectually-challenged in the use of various dashes - nobody ever taught me the difference.

So the first dash is a hyphen (short) and the second dash would be longer (an en or em?).

borisgudanov · 30/01/2015 16:59

I also prefer "&c." to "etc" (or indeed "ect").

So do I. It confuses idiots though. I used to work for a twat boss who loudly "corrected" my &c. to ect in front of an office full of spectators.

Then there was the civil servant who thought "dependent" and "dependant" were interchangeable. They are of course adjective and noun respectively. Despite receiving my and others' advice on the point several times he printed and sent out a million forms with his mistake in them in dozens of places. He was then stupid enough to send the resulting complaints to us.

We helpfully told his Minister's private office what was going on and they kicked his arse from Whitechapel to Shepherd's Bush.

editthis · 30/01/2015 17:02

Yes, Maid, in essence, although in fact you wouldn't hyphenate "intellectually challenged", as intellectually is an adverb. Blush Sorry, you did ask!

Good manors cost nothing genuinely made me LOL.

Thisishowyoudisappear · 30/01/2015 17:05

Has anyone else noticed that people seem to have started using 'worse' instead of 'worst'? It's been bugging me.

MaidOfStars · 30/01/2015 17:07

in fact you wouldn't hyphenate "intellectually challenged", as intellectually is an adverb

I have had the same debate with a colleague. The example I gave was somewhat contrived and I wouldn't normally hyphenate an adverb ending in -ly.

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