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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To hate the idea of the new smoking bribe?

438 replies

CharleyFarleyy · 28/01/2015 11:06

What do people who dont smoke anyway get? seems like they are going to miss out un-fairly.

Also if quitting for your and your babys health isnt incentive enough will shopping vouchers help anyway?

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Whichoneisit · 28/01/2015 11:34

How about just giving up smoking because you want your baby to be healthy rather than doing it to pocket some pennies?
If these mothers won't do it for their unborn then they won't do it at all imo

ChuckNovice · 28/01/2015 11:35

I quit smoking when I was pregnant can I put a backdated claim in?

CharleyFarleyy · 28/01/2015 11:38

Im not actually after freebies, I just feel that the money could be better spent. Rather than rewarding peoole for doing something they should be anyway maybe we could be funding something else? I get the point about it saving money for the NHS in the long run but IMO enforcing a punishment for smoking during pregnancy would have the same effect

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CharleyFarleyy · 28/01/2015 11:39

*people, SP poilce are about. Grin

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Ifyourawizardwhydouwearglasses · 28/01/2015 11:39

I feel very strongly that women who smoke when pregnant should be fined.

CharleyFarleyy · 28/01/2015 11:41

*police, oh dear haha

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wishmiplass · 28/01/2015 11:41

It's not rewarding them. It's offering an incentive to stop an addiction that can have profound long term advantages for many.

Do you have envy about other things offered to undeserving mothers?

Perfectlypurple · 28/01/2015 11:42

I don't think people will start smoking just to get free vouchers. The amount it costs to smoke would outweigh any benefit from a voucher.

Yes, people should not smoke because of the health of their child but if a little extra incentive helps then maybe it is a good thing. I don't begrudge someone else getting something that I don't.

PiperIsTerrysChoclateOrange · 28/01/2015 11:42

SS have enough of a workload to do as it is.

There are baby and children who need to services more.

Not a pregnant women who can legally smoke.

CharleyFarleyy · 28/01/2015 11:42

Its not envy, I dont personally want the vouchers, I just feel strongly about fairness.

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wishmiplass · 28/01/2015 11:43

I'm going to become single and get pregnant again so I can have a council house and a £400 shopping voucher. Anyone else in?

bumbleymummy · 28/01/2015 11:45

YANBU It doesn't sit right with me either. As others have said, not wanting to harm their baby should be the incentive.

CharleyFarleyy · 28/01/2015 11:45

Im affraid to say that I think that there are people who would (at least try) to abuse the system. People have done all kinds of things to claim other benefits.

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bloodygorgeous · 28/01/2015 11:45

What's it matter if you hate it?

It's not for you.

It's for the unborn babies of smoking mothers.

If this works then great.

It's about the solution/results, not the means.

PiperIsTerrysChoclateOrange · 28/01/2015 11:46

Wishmiplass no thank you.

A baby is so demanding, I would want a night nanny and a day nanny with a chef and cleaner if I was ever unlucky to get pregnant.

£400 sounds nice and a double bonus if it's your 1st and you get £500 maternity grand.

wishmiplass · 28/01/2015 11:47

It is fair. Just because you're not getting something because you don't do something doesn't mean an incentive can't be offered to those that do. YABU and a bit daft Smile.

CharleyFarleyy · 28/01/2015 11:48

"Its about the solution not the means"

In that case bring back the death penalty, the cane...

of course the means matters!

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SaucyJack · 28/01/2015 11:48

If you're more motivated by shopping vouchers than the health of your child then you're a pretty fucking pathetic individual indeed.

SoupDragon · 28/01/2015 11:50

If you're more motivated by shopping vouchers than the health of your child then you're a pretty fucking pathetic individual indeed.

That was my first thought on hearing this on the news this morning and exactly what I came on here to post.

SoupDragon · 28/01/2015 11:51

What budget cut elsewhere is finding this?

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 28/01/2015 11:51

What do people who dont smoke anyway get?
Better health outcomes for themselves and their children.

Also if quitting for your and your babys health isnt incentive enough will shopping vouchers help anyway?
Yes, that's what the pilot study shows.

bloodygorgeous · 28/01/2015 11:54

To all those saying mums should be motivated by their babies' health rather than vouchers.

Well duh. Yes.

But it's obviously not the case with everyone - whether we judge them or not.

It's about protecting unborn babies' health.

If this works it works.

Your argument about the death penalty makes no sense CharleyFarley.

Pisghetti · 28/01/2015 11:55

Unless I've missed something this isn't an actual scheme - it was simply the publication of some research which shows that offering the incentive gave better cessation rates of smoking than simply offering NHS support. Mind you the cessation rates with the incentive were only 20% .... Also, the Royal College of Midwives do not support the use of financial incentives in this way

CharleyFarleyy · 28/01/2015 11:55

If it is the case that shopping vouchers is more important to people than their childs health then we have a more worrying problem that bloody vouchers can't fix

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SoupDragon · 28/01/2015 11:56

It's about protecting unborn babies' health.

What about the health of that baby once it is born? What incentive will these mothers need to do the best for their child then? If the only incentive for stopping smoking was a voucher, they have no incentive whatsoever to continue as a non smoker.