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Workmates and snow!

183 replies

ACSlater · 20/01/2015 18:44

It isn't even snowing here yet but people are already saying they can't come in tomorrow because they need to stay at home to look after their 32 year old! Drives me up the wall!!!

AIBU to think they should have a contingency plan?!!!

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GlitterBelle · 21/01/2015 03:54

Wobbly - they don't salt the majority of pavements here. Unless my town is special, they just salt the High Street pavements and a few other main pavements.

When I was working , that's what terrified me more than driving - getting to and from the car. I have a real fear of ice after a bad fall (a fall for me can take between 6-12 months to heal from) so whenever I started a job I always asked as a reasonable adjustment due to mobility problems and lack of healing from falls, could I work from home when the weather is bad?

Luckily being in the South East it didn't happen that often, and all my manager were understanding.

treaclesoda · 21/01/2015 04:01

I posted upthread about once being stuck with no transport for a week due to snow but conversely I also once managed my commute through deep snow on dangerous rural roads only to arrive in the town I worked in and find it impossible to actually park anywhere. The roads service snow plough had cleared the main road through town but in doing so had banked up about three feet of rock hard snow on either side of the road thereby blocking access to the staff car park. It was a small rural town and had no public car parking facilities, and all the parking spaces along the side of the street were also filled with snow.

I ended up having to stop in the street, ring my boss and explain (they could look out and see me and know I was telling the truth) only for them to have to tell me to go home. They had no choice really, as there literally was nowhere safe to park. I was so cold and stressed that I cried at not being able to go to work! Grin

treaclesoda · 21/01/2015 04:04

A lot of the other staff lived closer and had been able to get someone else to drop them off at the office without needing to park, to clarify why they were able to get there.

WhereHas1999DissappearedToo · 21/01/2015 04:16

We're in New Zealand (deep south) DD's secondary closes quite a bit because they are at the highest point of the city so get heaps of snow. We normally only get a couple of days if there a good few inches and the whole city shuts down practically, otherwise we have 'late starts' we're the buses, schools, most work places don't open till 10am to let the ice/snow melt.

I still had to catch the bus to work when pg when we lived in the snowiest part of New Zealand at the highest point in the city, I survived Grin

CocobearSqueeze · 21/01/2015 05:11

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DoctorDonnaNoble · 21/01/2015 06:02

Our school has one of the widest catchment areas of local schools and we are the last to close usually.
The main reason we tend to close is the bus companies refuse to run the contract buses. We also look at how many students/teachers make it in.
We have never closed on a day when the police haven't already said that people should avoid unnecessary journeys.

StrawberryMouse · 21/01/2015 07:07

I don't live far from work so usually make it in and my husband is a bricklayer so tends to be off with the children if the weather is bad and schools closed but I love a bit of snow chaos and don't begrudge colleagues taking time off.

BiddyPop · 21/01/2015 07:27

Clam, yes my tongue was firmly in my cheek, I just couldn't do the smilie. I hate ipad mining....

Quitethewoodsman · 21/01/2015 07:34

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BiddyPop · 21/01/2015 07:38

Oh, and if there is serious disruption closing. Companies and schools midweek, or there is a covering of snow on a weekend day, our cul de sac has a tradition of having a BBQ on the green! But there is a core group of 4 houses who are very good friends and eat together frequently, so taking it outdoors is just another way to enjoy our company together but allow all the kids enjoy the weather at the same time. Screaming kids and snowman building, pulling kids in a fish box sledge, snowball fights...but made easier by sausages, chicken or whatever we find in fridges, and glasses of hot wine! And lots of chat and laughing! It's a great way to catch up with some of the other neighbours too, who we don't see as much of.

Snow socks are a great friend for your car if you are not going to get snow tyres or winte tyres. You can't drive them on Tarmac, but they make driving on actual snow no problem.and a lot cheaper than an extra set of tyres.

Celticlass2 · 21/01/2015 07:44

Desperate for some snow where we are.DD would love a couple of snow days. Nothing better than being holed up at home for a couple of days, drinking hot chocolate, and watching old films. Smile
I think putting yourself at risk to get to work is pretty stupid. No job is with it.
All you earnest types desperate to get to work at any cost I think you need to get a life!

Ledkr · 21/01/2015 07:49

I know it's easier to leave older kids but dint just assume that. Dd1 is 13 today and simply hates being in her own in the house.
She comes home from school at 4 and hates the hour and a half till I get home, she normally brings her friend home for company so would hate a whole day at home.

ilovesooty · 21/01/2015 07:49

Celticlass2 will you be saying that if you need to call the emergency services today?

Celticlass2 · 21/01/2015 07:59

Only emergency service I might object to being on lockdown is possibly Dominos if I'm having a snow day,Smilebut no nothing else.

clam · 21/01/2015 08:42

So, if all other countries manage wih snow, was I imagining the media reports over Christmas whereby hundreds of people were trapped in the alpine regions of France due to heavy snow on ski changeover day? If ski resorts and the neighbouring areas have, on occasion, to put people in emergency accommodation overnight, then it can happen anywhere.

JassyRadlett · 21/01/2015 09:00

I seem to recall sitting on the tarmac at Schiphol for three hours because they didn't have enoug de-icers, and not enough fluid for the de-icers so ours ran out halfway through and the plane froze up again.

It was cold, but not snowing.

frostyfingers · 21/01/2015 09:13

Our school is in a county town with a substantial number of rural pupils and has a great policy. They have a lot of staff who live locally enough to get in and operate an "open door" policy. IE, they will open and arrange the day according to how many children come in, but do not expect staff/pupils to travel if the conditions make it dangerous. They ask that a packed lunch is provided if at all possible in case catering staff can't make it.

RedToothBrush · 21/01/2015 09:13

Was that just the weather though? Or the weather combined with peak traffic in holiday season?

The UK has one of the highest number of convertibles on the road in the world - which is not exactly the best thing for our weather. They also are more liable to be rear wheel steering. And having wider tires which aren't so great in the snow due to weight distribution being spread whilst having poor grip.

So its not all about snow tires or chains, its about our ridiculous choice of hairdryers.

Then there's our stupid lack of knowledge of how to drive in snow, because we have so few snow days so lack experience.

And the fact that our roads themselves are hilly and bendy in a way that you don't get in a lot of other countries. Even down to the invention known as the roundabout.

TBH I think we have the perfect storm for 'being shit in snow' in the uk.

laughingmyarseoff · 21/01/2015 09:18

Schools often close as well because they expect, from experience, high absence which then offsted flag up. The school by me opened every snow day the last time it was bad and teachers fought their way in...for a total of 20 students. Offsted doesn't care it was a snow day, they pulled yhe school up over it. So now the school will close if it's a lot.

Yanbu to be annoyed at them saying now that they wont be in but ywbu if they were just planning to take things home to work from home in case.

clam · 21/01/2015 13:04

RedToothBrush that's the point though. Heavy traffic plus heavy snow = gridlock. And that's what happens around here, at least. Traffic carnage as everything grinds to an instant halt.

wobblyweebles · 21/01/2015 13:38

Celticlass2 will you be saying that if you need to call the emergency services today

My sister works for the emergency services. If she can't get to work in her own car then they send a 4WD out to get her because they don't want her taking risks.

Also bear in mind that the more people are blocking up the roads in snow, the harder it is for the emergency services to get to where they're needed.

MaryWestmacott · 21/01/2015 13:42

I always get annoyed by the "they cope in Canada" argument - yes, in other countries, it snows a lot, every single year, they can count on it. It would be only newsworthy if there was no snow on the ground all winter. And therefore, their infrastructure is arranged on the understanding there will be snow for several months of the year. I believe in parts of Canada, they used to reset the train tracks for winter every year (do they still do that?) - it was a massively expensive and distruptive proceedure, but worth 2-3 days of distruption to ensure 2-3 months of operating in snowy conditions, and worth the costs. In the UK, it just wouldn't be worth it.

I live in the SE, I've been in this house for 5 winters, in that time, we've had 3 years with some snow, but not snow settling at all for the last 2. (so far, a few flurries, but nothing settling, and no snow predicted). Yes on 2 of the 3 years it snowed there was some travel distruption and schools closing for 1-2 days, but nothing worth spending millions on redesigning transport systems or factoring snow into the planning designs of schools, limiting the use of space all year round on the off chance it might not be suitable for a couple of days every few years.

Last year, hte trouble wasn't snow, it was rain - we got away lightly in our town, but in the next town over the river flooded. Train tracks were also flooded so only half the trains that go through our town were running (as the ones going down that track were cancelled). The other line, however, goes through a village that has a different river running through it, one that's flooded pretty much every winter as long as anyone can remember. Yet, the trains were running, because when building the trainline in the late 1800s, they knew that village would flood at least once every winter, so built the trainline up on a high embankmant. Most of the old houses in that village were also fine, they have been building to allow for flooding for 200+ years, houses are built up, none have cellars, gardens are often sloping.

The other town that flooded, my PIL have lived in that town for nearly 40 years, MIL can only remember it flooding to the same extent 2 other times in that period, so builders don't plan for river flooding.

RedToothBrush · 21/01/2015 14:29

France during Christmas probably has a lot of brits in silly cars in that traffic jam... Wink

Number3cometome · 21/01/2015 14:32

My work do not pay for snow days, it's annual leave or no pay.

If the school is closed, the kids come to work with me!

FryOneFatManic · 21/01/2015 14:40

A lot of people don't seem to know how to drive in snow these days.

I've only once had a problem in getting to work, in nearly 30 years. Currently the worst bit of my journey is getting out of my cul-de-sac and down the next road to the first gritted road. my road and the next one are not gritted and ice is usually the problem.

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