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To think that DP's two cannabis joints have changed him?

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quickqwik · 19/01/2015 15:00

DP recently bought some "skunk" - a type of cannabis? anyway he's used it twice in the past few days (as far as I know) and all of a sudden is a miserable, temperamental twat wanting to argue with me all the time. This wouldn't be because of TWO episodes of cannabis surely?

I do remember though when we went to THailand he bought some there, got stoned and turned into arsehole of the year in one night which is why I'm wonderiing? I dont know much about it, can it do that in such small ammounts?

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MrsKravitzFromAcrossTheStreet · 19/01/2015 17:11

I would like to thank LurkingHusband too for his non-hysterical contributions. People could really learn a lot from having a read at www.clear-uk.org/ which separates the facts from the tabloid propaganda.

TrixAreForKids · 20/01/2015 11:40

it harms people differently, or doesn't harm them at all.
it trigged paranoia, anxiety and depression in me at 14 when i started smoking it. smoked £30 a day down the drain at 14 thanks to my bf at the time. I stopped a year and a half ago - never to touch ti again as I still go through wanting/needing to self harm and I blame it on weed.
DP smokes a few times a week, maybe? I don't know, I don't live with him. Probbably on tuesdays and thursdays with 2 joints before bed with his mate who lives across the street. DP is the same as he always has been. it really just depends.

TrixAreForKids · 20/01/2015 11:41

Posted too soon - DP is fine. I do wonder what he'd be like without it, maybe either very mellow or bad tempered? I'm not sure but he's fine. I don't like him doing it as its an awful drug. but it does harm people differently. the skunk might have just been bad!

LurkingHusband · 20/01/2015 11:44

TrixAreForKids

£30 ? A day ? Unless you are incredibly young, going back, £30 would have lasted a very long time. If you had been drinking it would have been equivalent to a couple of bottles of gin. No good for anyone .

Starlightbright1 · 20/01/2015 11:46

My EX used to smoke dope and ended up in psych hospital... It made him more of an asshole although he could do that without the aid of drugs

TrixAreForKids · 20/01/2015 11:47

my exP had a very good job, he was 4 years older than me, didn't have to pay board to his mum, and spent a lot of money on drugs. and if I didn't get it off him, it was always being passed around. I'm 19.

TrixAreForKids · 20/01/2015 11:48

wyh did i put ExP? ex bf. so used to putting DP!
but now i have the better job. I'm doing well for myself. He's a waster and I'm not. he still takes drugs, I don't. My DP smokes a bit of weed and tried E one time. i got angry at him.
he will grow out of it.

SunnyBaudelaire · 20/01/2015 11:48

"My EX used to smoke dope and ended up in psych hospital"
I do not wish to diss your experience, but honestly you could equally say 'my ex drank too much coffee/alcohol/red bull" and ended up in psych hosp.
You know he could have been using dope to self medicate the feelings he already had?

TrixAreForKids · 20/01/2015 12:35

sunny my uncle started on weed and graducally escalated to heroin. thats why I don't like the stuff.
drugs trigger things in your brain. any type of drug.

theRotcod · 20/01/2015 12:43

It definitely does effect people differently. I'm sure the majority are fine. I was the only one of my friends (to my knowledge) who reacted badly every time I smoked it. I would be paranoid and twitchy for days after, and have to stay in my room and keep away from people. I've not had bad experiences like that on other drugs.

My brother also is badly affected, although he is a long-term regular user.

Sazzle41 · 20/01/2015 12:43

Recent medical consensus is that you are 7 times more likely to experience mental health issues if you use it and if there is already a history of Schizophrenia or Bi polar in the family it can very often trigger the first instance of it in teenagers I will try and find the link i read - it was an article in the Mirror i think. It also affects sexual performance in men - a lot according to a male friend, who tried it once and said never again for that reason. (the spirits willing but the flesh is .... not getting there)

SunnyBaudelaire · 20/01/2015 12:44

"drugs trigger things in your brain. any type of drug."
well obviously that is true, whether it is coffee, tea, aspirin, ADs, or whatever.

Mammanat222 · 20/01/2015 12:45

My OH was a heavy smoker. The issue with him though was when he didn't have it.

Rehab (and me kicking him out) changed his usage dramatically but he does still occasionally indulge. A joint over the course of an evening doesn't make a difference to his personality and I only know he is smoking as he goes outside.
this is not an every night occurance. Maybe once every few weeks and he is working on stopping smoking completely. He still smokes roll ups most days

theRotcod · 20/01/2015 12:45

*affect

UsuallyLurking1 · 20/01/2015 13:05

Crazy stuff going on in here OP, scaremongering beyond even MN usual levels. You might be best to take this up on a Talk to FRANK type forum

I'd be highly surprised if two joints were the cause of his behaviour. The suggestion above the marijuana leads to violent episodes is pretty laughable. That being said, mood swings are generally associated with a habitual smoker stopping smoking (2 joints isn't habitual though). My guess is there's something more to his mood, whys he suddenly decided to start smoking now, is he dealing with any other issues or stresses in his life you are aware of

20+ years in prison in Thailand......the chances of a tourist getting any more than a £200 fine are minuscule. Have you ever been, the place is packed with European and American gap yearers doing little else but smoking

UsuallyLurking1 · 20/01/2015 13:07

sazzle, be careful on the "consensus" comments, despite much research there is nothing like a 'consensus' on the effects of these things, hence senior researchers quitting government positions over exactly that sort of comment

UsuallyLurking1 · 20/01/2015 13:13

£30 a day!!!!!

Yeah right....

UsuallyLurking1 · 20/01/2015 13:16

Lurking husband.....

You've made 10% profit but pretty soon you won't have a customer base doing that sort of thing. 90% of the stuff in the UK is grown in someone's house. Plenty of margin in it already, why mess about.

Cutting is obviously an issue with harder drugs but weed? I doubt it

UsuallyLurking1 · 20/01/2015 13:18

Edit to say lurkinghusband is making lots of very valid non hysterical points! Just questioned the grit thing, though I might well be wrong!

invisiblecrown · 20/01/2015 13:20

If we're talking about how he acts when he is smoking, yes the joints are causing it.

If we are talking about a permanent personality change even when sober, 2 joints is nowhere near enough to alter someone in that way.

SunnyBaudelaire · 20/01/2015 13:21

the big boys do not really need a customer base per se, think of it like a pyramid, with your punters who buy a gram at a time at the bottom.
In addition the ground glass fools people into thinking it is really good weed which does a have a crystalline dusting.

UsuallyLurking1 · 20/01/2015 13:55

Fair point and you may be right sunny, definitely recall reading about this type of thing in the past.

the people I know 'connected' to the trade insist that things come from 3 or 4 smaller independent growers in the UK rather than them buying a part of a large shipment that was smuggled in. That's not to say the UK growers aren't spraying it, but the people I know wouldn't buy that more than once

Sallystyle · 20/01/2015 14:00

My husband had a cannabis induced psychotic episode after a few joints. Some people blamed the cannabis. It didn't help no, but the signs of mental illness were there before hand.

He was diagnosed with bi-polar not long after. His smoking triggered it they said.

I think it would have happened at some point anyway.

Smoking regularly is bad for some people's mental health. I know regular pot smokers who are now lazy, unmotivated, depressed and often paranoid, but we are talking years of daily and hourly pot smoking here. Hard core pot smokers.

I would not have thought that two joints would cause such a huge chang e in someone, unless perhaps they have an existing mental health issue.

LurkingHusband · 20/01/2015 14:02

The problem is kids today haven't a clue about cannabis. Mainly (but not entirely) thanks to FRANK. There's no way anyone of my generation would fall for ground glass, nor some of the muck they put in soapbar (ketamine ffs !!!!).

Unless you are terminally thick, you're not going to trading standards about your stash.

And, like all good capitalists, drug dealers know their customer base is infinite. For every non-returning customer out, comes another kid in . It's been like that for a few generations now, so presumably we're OK with it. We certainly haven't shown any appetite for change.

LurkingHusband · 20/01/2015 14:04

U2TheEdge

very sorry about your families problems. We you aware there is some interest in the suggestion that bipolar prone people find themselves attracted to cannabis more than non bipolar ?

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