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Is the whole world of middle aged people just really vacuous now?

239 replies

Sunbury1986 · 18/01/2015 18:02

Hi all, I'm no academic so I'm not talking about education in the formal sense. I just feel that everyone I meet and talk to, many are educated and hold positions of title and status, are really dull to talk to. the main conversations seem to be about property prices, their "job title", which is hardly the brightest way to introduce yourself unless you are really status anxious, or which bloody Russell Group uni their child is applying to, and obviously if their/your child doesn't make a Russell Group they are going to be lucky to get a job in a Pound Shop. AIBU? Or do I need to (re) step away from people I know? Wink I believe many succeed with out a RG uni education.

OP posts:
southeastastra · 18/01/2015 23:45

lol get a grip

ghostyslovesheep · 18/01/2015 23:46

oh god what is so bad about saying what you feel/want

nothing - why do you object to other people doing the same - what IS your issue with people such as myself saying they find some comments here ageist - isn't that our right under your free speech argument?

yet you seem really hung up on us 'harpies' being wrong and that makes no sense given your view that you can say what you like

I can have free speech but you can't is oppression my dear - not equality

southeastastra · 18/01/2015 23:46

on the contrary i am not attempting to shut down anyone, people opposed to free speech are the ones doing that

ghostyslovesheep · 18/01/2015 23:48

and on that note I am off to bed - work in the morning - night all my hot flushing harpies who want to ban people from speaking Hmm

ilovesooty · 18/01/2015 23:48

get a grip is an attempt to shut down opposing views as well.

ghostyslovesheep · 18/01/2015 23:50

get a grip

are you from the middle east

harpies

PC gone mad

all good ways of silencing debate ...night xxx

southeastastra · 18/01/2015 23:50

god don't talk about 'old' people on here even if it is used as a descriptive terms

you can say what you want 'dear' but i will fight to the end to say what i think and feel like it or not, i will not be told to not say this or that just because some people find it offensive

there lies the end of civilised existence.

ilovesooty · 18/01/2015 23:54

Say what you like - if I find it offensive, discriminatory or contrary to the guidelines I'll challenge it and report it. I have a right to do that.

And if HQ agree they'll delete it.

southeastastra · 18/01/2015 23:55

do that then bit wow

southeastastra · 18/01/2015 23:56

do you think hq are a higher authority then for free speech? mad

ilovesooty · 18/01/2015 23:57

They suggest casual ageism is challenged and reported.

I think that's fair enough.

southeastastra · 18/01/2015 23:58

big brother, do you usually follow rules set by internet forums so readily ?

southeastastra · 18/01/2015 23:59

or do you have a mind of your own?

ilovesooty · 19/01/2015 00:02

I do think these responses are a little cliched southeastastra

I think I've made my position on this clear. I think I've done so without resorting to impoliteness. I think HQ's position is clear too.

MoanCollins · 19/01/2015 00:08

Blimey, how depressing. I think that the middle aged, like any age group, are a diverse group of people with lots of different outlooks, personalities and traits.

I find it depressing when any age group is reduced to a stereotype. Teenagers are the main victim of this, but to be honest with any age group it's lazy and says more about the narrow circle of acquaintance the person believing the stereotype has rather than anything about the age group themselves.

The one thing I would say is that in general people who are middle aged now had a lot more financial advantages compared to younger people today, and sometimes they don't appreciate how much harder things are for us. But again, this is not universal.

LoisDrankMyTableDecoration · 19/01/2015 00:19

Op you've poorly worded your topic. Ywnbu to be bored of the people you know boring you to death with inane chatter but yabu to tar all us middle aged folk with the same brush!

sugar21 · 19/01/2015 00:38

I'd never heard of RL uni's until I came on here, then I saw a thread entitled "How do you parents whose DC's didn't get into RL uni's feel". Thought to myself don't like the sound of that read some of the thread got mad at the OP so just posted you are a snob. I don't believe in all this ism stuff. Takes all sorts to make the world go round and there's far too much shite flying round so let's be nice to each other. Life's far to short to bicker.

LoisDrankMyTableDecoration · 19/01/2015 00:47

sugar I remember that thread, op was flamed. I went to one of the bottom uni's in the uk and have a second class degree in a soft subject Shock I've turned out okay!

StarsOfTrackAndField · 19/01/2015 00:49

The Russell Group thing is utter fucking bollocks (and I say that as somrone who's been to three of them.) They are a self selecting cartel of 'research led' universities who banded together and declared themselves an elite.

The research output of a university is no guarantee of quality at undergraduate level. In fact in some ways it hinders it.

Anyone who boasts about their children going to a Russell group university without any context or understanding of what that means is a fucking dope.

LoisDrankMyTableDecoration · 19/01/2015 00:53

A cartel stars? I'm picturing drugs and gun running! Probably not the curriculum Grin

BringMeTea · 19/01/2015 05:04

Well. I am 45 and attended a RG university and have never, not once, had a conversation about them. I am not middle class either. Definitely your friends. Get some new and better ones OP. Smile

BIWI · 19/01/2015 07:36

I'm Shock at you southeastastra. Were you pissed last night? Or do you like to deliberately insult people?

Why would you defend your (or anyone's) right to insult other people?

(Totally ignoring for the moment that it's against Talk Guidelines)

Whatthegeoff · 19/01/2015 08:02

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ghostyslovesheep · 19/01/2015 08:27

For future reference we don't have 'free speech' in this country anyway - because we have laws against discrimination just like MN had rules about it - hth

WinterBranches · 19/01/2015 08:51

"just like MN": I hope the country's rules are never the same as those of MN.Grin

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