to agree with Jamie Oliver that sugar is "the next tobacco" and it should be taxed due to its health risks

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I think Jo is a twat, but I do agree with this. I also think he should feel very guilty for all his promotion of sugary foods that he has made millions off. I remember him going on about crap school dinners all the while being the focus of sainsburys Christmas's foods and promoting gingerbread, trifile and other junk food all while saying go on its Christmas.

ladysybil plates are definitely bigger. My modern ones are behemoths compared to the hand-me-down dinner plates my great aunt gave me and the ones the previous (elderly) owner left behind.

See, that's it, we're being duped into buying more and eating more. It's a plate/food manufacturer conspiracy!

I do have to check labels on everything though because the slightest bit of sorbitol and it's oh dear for my ibs.

Thing is though I find if something is low fat it's often got a ton of sugar or salt in. No sugar and its stuffed full of chemical sweeteners. If they reduce the salt they up the sugar.

With any kind of ready made food you can't win. As I said before I try to cook from scratch as much as I can also because of food issues as above but it really is a minefield.

silly twat

I don't think Jamie has any right to be lording it over the British minions telling then thou shalt not eat sugar, when let's face it most of his recipe books are less than 100% health food options, he has even less of a right to be advising we tax people in food, sugar or not

Yabvvvu ban everything then, people cannot be trusted to make their own judgements about themselves.

I don't think his recipe's are designed to be eaten every day. Like Nigellas, everything in moderation. I'm rather at his 'budget' book though. Not everyone has the cash to buy his staples/rack of lamb etc. It may work out cheaper in the long run, but if you're broke then you can't afford to buy the ingredients in his book in the first place.

Oh i just cant stand this bloat-faced patronising idiot.

Preachy fuck.

I don't know what I feel really. I definitely think it's different from tobacco and alcohol though

(TBH I'm a total ignoramus when it comes to economics so I don't really understand the ins and outs of it)

"Budget" also often relies on you not being so financially stretched that you can't afford to run and oven/hob for at least an hour or so

I'm going to write a cook book. A proper budget/healthy meals one for ds for when he goes to Uni, with the costings for each meal at the side and stuff

Surely it's in the plate manufacturers interest to create smaller plates, that way you eat less, and then need to eat more meals requiring more plates!

Not really, they must be colluding to make the nation fatter, shares in the food companies maybe. I don't think people realise how much food they should be eating, so are overeating because the plates give them the wrong impression. People are not taught portion control so will just pile the plates.

When you buy a dinner service, you get dinner plates, bowls and mugs (in your average one), so you don't get to decide how large your plates are. The only ones where I've seen two sizes of plates is Denby, but if folk use their dinner plates they will be overeating.

Denby dinner plate - 26.5cm and is huge! www.denby.co.uk/imperial-blue/imperial-blue-dinner-plate/invt/001010005 Can you imagine how much food they hold when piled high?

The next plate down is a desert plate, measuring 22cm. www.denby.co.uk/imperial-blue/imperial-blue-dessertsalad-plate/invt/001010004 This isn't bad as a dinner plate goes but as the average dinner plate is 26.5cm, would the vast majority of people use something smaller (we use these as dinner plates and don't pile them high unless it's a roast).

Tea plates are 17.5cm but don't come in the set.

My rule is never to buy a plate which is twice the size of my head!