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to think I'm not responsible for this boy?

37 replies

lem73 · 17/12/2014 09:34

This is a bit of a long story. I'll try to keep it brief. I've known my friend since our boys were in playgroup together. They were in the same class at primary and are now at secondary together. They're both in year 7. Her ds always struggled a bit to make friends but my ds always liked him and made sure he got included. She is very over protective and used to go into school a lot to complain about other boys being nasty to her ds. She would also complain to me about some of my ds's friends because she wanted me to speak to their parents. I knew there was frequently another side to the story but kept well out. Her son is quite physically aggressive and frankly doesn't make an effort to get along with people. I can honestly say no one picked on him.
My ds's opinion of this boy started to change a bit when the boy started to tease him about his nut allergy. I got sickened when I saw him stick a piece of chocolate cake under his nose and say ha ha you can't eat this. My ds also got sick of the constant complaining to his mum about being left out because it was usually made up. I witnessed one occasion when ds and a friend decided to try sketching from a you tube tutorial. The boy was also there but point blanked refused to join in although he was asked several times. He went home and complained to his mum. She texted me and I said I thought it was lovely to see them do something other than Xbox and he was asked to join in. She got a bit huffy with me.
Now the boys are in secondary school. I made my son include this boy in walking to and from school because it's not nice to walk on your own. Now I'm getting complaints about the boys leaving him. He is frequently late but she expects them to wait. Yesterday I got a text saying they just abandoned him after school and it was dark etc. I confronted my son and he said the boy walked off without saying a word. I relayed this back and my friend said 'I know he did because they kept talking about scooters and he doesn't like scooters'. Well what are they supposed to do??
This woman is actually a really nice person otherwise and she's been a very good friend. This is why I've tried to make ds include him. However this morning at the school run for our younger kids she ignored me. I think she's annoyed about yesterday. I'm a bit upset about losing the friendship but I do think the kids have to sort this out. I have tried to make them include him but if they don't actually like him what can I do? My dh says it's my fault because I've got them used to having my ds include the boy and he's reliant on him.
How do I sort this without losing the friendship?

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lisylisylou · 17/12/2014 12:50

If the lady is your friend just say how sorry you are but your son and friend can't wait past a certain time otherwise he will be in trouble with the school for being late. Then you've set down the boundary lines to your friend who will then relay it to her son. You have to take your sons lead on this I'm afraid why should he be late and have to accept any consequences?

IAmNotAPrincessIAmAKahleesi · 17/12/2014 13:01

I can see that you've done all this with the very best of intentions but I do think you've been very unfair to your son. He is far to young to have so much responsibility for a random child that he doesn't even like. Why did you 'confront' him yesterday about not walking home with the other boy? You've said yourself you know how difficult he can be

It's lovely that you've been so kind but I do think your friend has been using you and even if you do feel responsible for the boy (which you absolutely shouldn't) you shouldn't make your son responsible for him

Lymmmummy · 17/12/2014 13:20

You are not responsible for him - you have kindly encouraged your son who has no issues making /maintaining friendships to include him despite your son having lots of friends and this boy sounding slightly difficult - you have done your best - he is not your son and the mother of the boy seems to be hoping you should be taking this role as if you and your son should be solving all his problems!!

If I had a shy/socially awkward/ difficult son I would hope a friend with a son the same age would offer some support but I would also realise you can't force friendships and I would probably try and do other things to encourage friendships ie invute friends around, enrol him in classes, get him to join clubs etc

You cannot reasonably be expected to make up for all the issues which her son has

AMumInScotland · 17/12/2014 13:28

I think the texts about yesterday give you the perfect start to the conversation with her. "Friend, your expectations of my son have become too much. He is not responsible for your son going off on his own and it is completely unreasonable of you to accuse my son of abandoning him when something like that happens. They are old enough now to sort out their own friendships, and I am not going to interfere any longer."

Tell your son you're sorry that you confronted him about what happened, and have realised that you've been unfair to him for a while now about this. Then tell him he should treat this boy as he would anyone else and not feel you are going to guilt him about it.

You've done what you can to get your son to help this boy settle into secondary, so you don't have to feel bad about not fixing everything for him.

paperlace · 17/12/2014 13:34

I'd usually say stay out of it, let the kids sort it out and accept the fact there are always mad mums about...but in this case (since you have had several snippy text conversations so it's out there) I'd go and chat to her.

Be friendly, calm but honest: 'Listen I know it's a bit awkward but they clearly aren't natural friends anymore and it seems to be causing a bit of friction between us which I really don't want. I think their friendship has run it's course as there have been lots of incidents where they see things in a different way' and go from there.

Reekypear · 17/12/2014 13:38

Good grief, never force children into friendships against their will. It never ends well

lem73 · 17/12/2014 14:46

I know I can't fix things if the kids don't naturally get along. If anything else is said
I'll have to tell her I want the boys to sort it out and if my ds is being so unkind why is her ds insisting on walking with him every day? Frankly it's a bit arrogant to know he's frequently late but expect them to wait. They get an automatic detention if they are late twice.

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Aeroflotgirl · 17/12/2014 14:54

Just leave the boys to it, don't force your ds to do anything he does not want to and that includes being friends with the boy.

eddielizzard · 17/12/2014 15:41

this boy isn't working out the solutions to his own problems. his mum is constantly smoothing his path which isn't preparing him for rl. is she going to have words with his boss one day too?

lem73 · 17/12/2014 16:31

That's not so far fetched eddielizard. My mum's best friend did that to her daughter's boss when she was struggling in her first job.

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YouTheCat · 17/12/2014 16:46

This boy isn't struggling to make friends. He's struggling not to make everything about him and what he likes and his mum needs to stop all this crap.

I see this on the playground every day. But I'm talking about 6 year olds who moan because they only want to play what they want to and who won't join in and take turns in others' games.

Bulbasaur · 17/12/2014 17:07

Just because a kid can't make friends doesn't mean it's your son's responsibility to put up with a kid that's a pain in the ass. Maybe when the kid learns that no one will hang with him, he'll shape up.

My parents made me put up with a girl that was a pita because she was getting abused at home. It did not foster good feelings towards her to be forced to put with her. And.. no amount of "poor girl" made getting bit and slapped any more tolerable (nor did it make my parents call SS, but that's a completely separate thread). I got punished for hitting her, but not the other way around. It only resolved itself when I finally told her for every time she hit me, I'd make sure to hit harder and make it hurt worse, and I didn't care what punishment I got. A few times of following through on that and we got along (because she stopped hitting me) and are relatively good friends as adults.

Sometimes you just need to let kids work things out for themselves. They have their own system and rules figured out. Let them exclude the boy's son, and if he wants their friendship he'll shape up. But right now he's acting like this because he can get away with it and people cater to him.

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