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to think that prisoners should be given access to books as much as possible

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ReallyTired · 05/12/2014 12:56

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30344867

I find it shocking that books for prisoners were considered a privilage. I feel that reading is a great way for prisoners to improve themselves and should be encouraged. I can understand prison officers fears of drugs being smugged in with real books.

If prisoners could have an e book reader with wireless access to a library of approved books then prison officers would not have to take prisoners to the library. Prehaps the UK prison service could have its own library of e books just like my local council does. Maybe prisoners who can't read could have access to audio books on various approved/ useful/ interesting topics.

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SaucyJack · 05/12/2014 20:54

I don't even know why I'm bothering to argue with you.

It can't have been a serious suggestion.

BMW6 · 05/12/2014 20:57

My DH read tons of books readily available from the Prison Library when he did a short stretch..........

sadly he did note that most of his cellmates were barely literate, so reading & writing courses should be a priority in prison imo.

ReallyTired · 05/12/2014 21:03

"Prisoners are too busy watching tv to read book. I used to work in a prison & nearly every cell had a tv."

This does not surprise me. However this is a minority of prisoners who want books otherwise there would not have been the ruling. Barbara Gordon-Jones is a prisoner at Send who wants books. Why not allow the small minority of prisoners who want books to have an ebook reader.

I doult it would cost 9 million to buy e book readers for the few prisoners who want them.

A Sony ebook reader is £39. I imagine that the prison service might get an even better deal. A kindle would not be suitable for a prison enviromnent as a technically savy person can get primative internet access on a bog standard kindle if they can hold of a wifi signal. As far as I know a very basic ebook reader has no internet capablities as the user has to connect it to a computer to download books.

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LizzieVereker · 05/12/2014 21:03

The average reading age of UK prison inmates is 9. I don't think reducing access to books is a good idea. How will people reintegrate into soceity, how will they help their own children to negotiate the world with a reading age of 9?

Hoppinggreen · 05/12/2014 21:08

From what I understand ( radio) prisoners are not allowed to receive parcels and there is no specific ban on books but ALL parcels.
They have access to a library and bookshop so can read if they choose to.

Heyho111 · 05/12/2014 21:08

Smokin - how can books be a treat to people who are unlikely to know the pleasure and importance of books.
Give them books to learn , see the world from a different perspective and to develop. Yes filter them for inappropriate content but let them be a part of their rehabilitation.
Why deny your child a book for bad behaviour - how very odd.

ReallyTired · 05/12/2014 21:29

Prisoners are a diverse group. I imagine that the odd crooked Tory MP might enjoy an ebook reader. If there is a half decent education programme an illerate prisioner might learn to read. A prisoner might want to do GCSE English.

It would be interesting to know what the level of demand in prisons would be for a really basic ebook reader with no internet access whatsoever. I doult that the prison service would be indunated with requests.

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mummytowillow · 05/12/2014 22:18

I worked in a prison for 20 years, believe me the libraries are like those outside.

As long as there are staff to take them, they get access to lots of books. They can even order books from civvy street libraries if it's not in!

Don't believe everything you read ...

Icimoi · 05/12/2014 23:49

mummytowillow, you're generalising from your own experience which apparently isn't current anyway. Believe me, the prison service has suffered from funding cuts as much as anywhere else; in that situation, providing staff to take inmates to the library is way, way down the list of priorities.

Furthermore, if you are studying for a qualification, you need more than access to libraries: you need your own copy of the textbooks in question.

Look at the evidence cited in the judgment in question:

"A statement from Mr Graham Beech, the Acting Chief Executive Officer of NACRO, underlines the importance of access to books and the damaging effects of any restrictions. He said restrictions send out the wrong message. He makes the point that prison libraries do not always stock the range and quality of books which would help prisoners with their own personal development."

"Economies which have resulted in staffing levels being reduced have worsened the situation and financial restrictions are likely to mean that purchases of particular books which will be unlikely to appeal to prisoners other than the one requesting them will not be approved. A statement from the Prisoners Education Trust includes statements from prisoners who are studying for particular qualifications who needed to possess books."

'Furthermore, a book requested by a prisoner may not be available because another has borrowed it. A book may not only be one which a prisoner may want to read but may be very useful or indeed necessary as part of a rehabilitation process. If educational and approved by the relevant officer no doubt it may be possible for it to be acquired, but that cannot be assured.'

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