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To wonder what 'Security Clearance' actually involves?

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ArsenicSoup · 24/11/2014 21:47

Do they rifle through your bins?

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Summerisle1 · 25/11/2014 00:03

DS1 works in an industry that requires very high levels of security. He was most apologetic the other week when he phoned up and said they also wanted to know all about DH (not DS1's father) as well as me. Apparently I'd already passed whatever security test they'd done on me which came as a surprise since I wasn't exactly quiet on the political activism front in the past.
Quite a lot of information had been required too.

BeanCalledPickle · 25/11/2014 06:54

They asked my friend for details of all recent intimate relationships, to which she had to write 'please see continuation sheet'. Grin

ChairOfTheBored · 25/11/2014 07:33

I have SC, and it was basic financial disclosure and details of my parents and husband.

Wouldn't fancy DV though - no skeletons but I think I'm worried they'd find me too dull!

500smiles · 25/11/2014 11:16

at continuation sheet

Cinnamoncookie · 25/11/2014 11:21

I had a temporary job in a government department a few years ago, and it took them six months to do my basic security clearance. It finally arrived the week before I left ! Wonder what would have happen if they'd decided I didn't pass Hmm

Siarie · 25/11/2014 11:26

Haha no they don't go through your bins..or do they Wink, naturally there isn't much information given out about the various clearance level processes.

BrieAndChilli · 25/11/2014 11:26

DH has security clearance for somewhere that doesn't officially exist. We had to answer questions on parts and grandparents and great grandparents, my stepdad who is Irish, financial details, if either of us had had an affair, and loads more quite personal questions I can't remember.

BuckskinnedAstronaut · 25/11/2014 11:35

Depends on the level.

I was a referee for one friend who was getting her security clearance raised -- the security guy (who was named Alan Partridge!) called me and talked through how long I'd known her and her husband and how we'd met, whether either of them used drink or drugs and how much, that sort of thing.

My brother needed much higher level of security clearance once and he needed to submit a detailed family tree going out quite a way, and security people came and talked to my parents' neighbours, all my brother's ex-girlfriends, and had clearly checked up on the rest of us because my parents' neighbour started to say something about me and they said "No, no, we know all about Buckskinned, tell us about TheOtherBrother..." My parents had funny noises on their phone line around that time too, although that might just be paranoia...

NorbertDentressangle · 25/11/2014 11:38

A friend of DPs recently got a job linked to government technology (or something like that as details were naturally vague and sketchy).

He put DP down as a personal character reference as they've been good friends for over 30 years. Anyway this organisation sent someone on a 400 mile round trip one day to meet DP to talk about his friend for an hour. Why the discussion couldn't be over the phone or via email I don't know. It couldn't have been for privacy/security reasons because they met in a coffee shop for the 'interview'.

The wages for a days work and expenses for a 400 mile trip seemed a bit OTT for an hours chat!

TheSpottedZebra · 25/11/2014 11:41

Why he interest in sex life for developed vetting? Is it trying to flush out blackmail worthy material?

CMOTDibbler · 25/11/2014 11:46

Correct Zebra - they don't care what you are doing and with whom, but you have to be honest about it so it can't be used to blackmail you.

Norbert - you can tell a lot more about people in person than on the phone, its all the non verbal cues.

TheSpottedZebra · 25/11/2014 11:49

Do they genuinely not care, CMOT? (within relatively broad parameters, natch). Is it ok to be gay, to have multiple partners, ons etc?

I spose I am thinking about Gareth Williams there... Not saying that he was into any of that, of course if not know, just wondering if he'd have had the freedom to be himself with regards to his job.

CMOTDibbler · 25/11/2014 12:13

I believe (and obv I don't know for sure) that this is the case - I know that orientation and ONS isn't an issue apparently. Anything secretive, being firmly in the closet to family otoh is an issue as you might do things to avoid it being in the open.

shadowfax07 · 25/11/2014 12:17

Zebra, when I couldn't supply some of the information on one of the forms, I phoned our security office to be told that they are looking for honesty, so to fill out the form as honestly as I could, and explain why there might be inconsistencies. I'm not DV cleared though, that may change things.

TheSpottedZebra · 25/11/2014 12:34

Interesting, thanks both!

ArsenicSoup · 25/11/2014 12:39

It seems to be SC. So that's quite mild?

It wasn't my (married, monogamous, continuation-sheet free) sex life that worried me. It was the idea of anybody might speak to my mother and still want to employ a member of this family Grin

Mind you, I had the same apprehension about her meeting DH and that worked out ok Smile

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givemushypeasachance · 25/11/2014 12:57

Someone I know through work recently had to be interviewed when her husband was applying to work in the security clearance team at the MOD - obviously they want to thoroughly check out the people who are going to be checking out everyone else! Grin I think it took about six months to do all the checks from initial acceptance to him starting; and this was for a guy who'd only been married once and who had worked for the civil service already basically his whole life. I remember there was a particular issue with relatives who were British citizens but who'd been born overseas - that was apparently a 'flag'.

PixieofCatan · 25/11/2014 13:07

Dp is doing his placement year for a company who do techie work for the MOD. Apart from taking a good few sittings to complete the security questions (his was online), there wasn't anything too intrusive. They asked about his parents and mine though, and if he had any involvement in terrorist organisations, but the rest was mainly just relatively standard information!

Mark999 · 15/12/2015 10:41

Hi. I am in a process of getting SC Clearance. I've received a letter saying that they want to arrange a face to face interview with me. I was a bit surprised as I had SC in my previous employment and there was no interview. Has anyone had SC Interview before? Any suggestions as to what I might be asked? Thank you.

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