That Puxton Park don't allow single adults in case they are pedophiles?

[LittleBairn]

I am really shocked by this story I know its the daily Wail
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2828413/Theme-park-bans-single-adults-paedophile-fears-bird-enthusiast-grandfather-told-t-watch-falconry-display.html

So a Single Adult can't go visit the falconry display incase they are a pedophile and the park is openly justifying their stance. Disgusting.
Our pedophile paranoia is getting out of control.

Littlebairn, fair enough.

Actually, I don't agree with the rule itself, I'm not someone who sees a paedo on every corner, all I was actually trying to say was that having been there myself (which I assume probably 95% of people on this thread haven't), it really isn't the kind of place that a lone adult would want to go to.

You mention country parks, this really isn't like that, it's very much a children's venue, not somewhere you'd go for a nice outdoorsy, generic park type day.

I agree with you about the adult membership card issue.

And the Disney comparisons are not realistic at all. Adults could obviously really enjoy Disney without children, this place not so much.

It's ridiculous. I think single adults should be encouraged to communicate with children. There are lots of lonely old ladies and men, very very lonely and I think it can do them huge good to see children on a regular basis. My mother used to take us to visit elderly neighbours and I think that was a lovely thing to do both for the children and the adults and yes those old people were single.

Loads of people live alone. 1 in 4 or 5 women never marry or have chidlren. Why should they be excluded from places just because they don't fit some boring social norm? Loads of people like to do things on their own - liking your own company is a wonderful gift which means.

Liking your own company is great but really, some things are just odd. Would you think it's fine or weird for a lone adult to go to a soft play place because (having been to PP), really there's no difference

kits I do understand what you mean and I do agree some places are only appropriate for young kids like the Diana Memorial park.
My mention of Country parks was to highlight the shifting attitude in society that many people see these as family with children only places society is be I ing segregated.
It's this attitude that concerns me I'm not sure I would want to raise a son in a society where he is seen as a preditor soley because of his sex.

Society is becoming segregated.

"It's this attitude that concerns me I'm not sure I would want to raise a son in a society where he is seen as a preditor soley because of his sex."

Women are also not allowed in Puxton Park on their own.

Our local library has a sign at the children's bit saying adults must be accompanied by a child.

I've never thought anything of it TBH though I did ask them once when I was getting a book for DD when she wasn't with me and they said it was fine to go in.

"I'd love to know if Puxton Park staff are DBS checked. Because surely a paedophile is going to try to get a job with access to children rather than pay a fortune to watch them from a distance as anyone can at any old public park or playground."

I would expect they are DBS checked, yes.

It's not single adults that arnt allowed in the Diana Memorial Playground, its ALL adults unless accompanied by a child up to the age of 12.

We are not all like other people. I am very different from most. My ideal week would be seeing no one. I have no sexual interest in children but I don't see why just because I am alone I should have to avouid places where there are children. We don't have to be clones playing happy families in groups. There are a lot of loners around. Why should they not be free to go where groups of children are? I certainly cannot see the appeal of going to a soft play area without a child of course as even when I had young children those kinds of places were so dreadful you'd have had to pay me to go there. I even managed to avoid 10 years of theme parks and would need to be paid a small fortune to visit somewhere as awful as a Disney place. However if adults want to go there let them. We need to remember most children are hurt by their relatives not strangers. The most dangerous place for most children is sadly their own home.

Grunt oh come on they admit its because of pedophile hysteria but they can't be seen to single out men so they ban women too.

It's not at all like soft play, the man wanted to see the falcon. I can well see my dad deciding to go back so he could watch properly if ob his first visit he'd been dragged back to the rides before he was read.

Oh, MN was better before phones!

...Dad going back to see the falconry properly, if on his first visit he'd been dragged back to the rides before he was ready, especially if he's been sold one of those deals where "membership" is only a few pounds more than a single visit. He'd be thinking great I can bring DGC again in the hols and come and see the display when I have a spare afternoon. Bargain.

He's not likely to do it if he's got to make a special appointment and explain how he's not a paedophile though

It's totally different to soft play read the article.

Absolutely crazy.

your title doesn't make sense.
But you're right. When childfree friends (a m/f couple) joined my family recently at a sort of fun park place, they weren't allowed in as they had no children. We had to go and collect them at the entrance, it was bizarre.

Yes, Thrif, exactly what I was thinking. I could imagine my dad doing the same too.

What a depressing story. :(

Thrif I can imagine my Grandad too being totally baffled by it too and being very hurt.
My grandad had a lot of fruit trees in his back garden all very secluded my aunt insisted that he stop allowing local children in to pick fruit and they would play on our old swing etc. he was mortified that people would be suspicions of such behaviour it never occurred to him.
So he started to say no to them when they knocked on the door he became really depressed and lonely he adores children (and the local kids loved him) soon after he left the house he had lived in for 30+ years and moved in assisted living partly because he felt isolated from the community.

This is why our society is becoming fractured single people are no longer expected to interact with the young without suspicion.
I'm very against this attitude for this reason hence why I will go out of my way from spending any money with a company that not only has these rules but proudly publicises them.

They had both the man and the manager of Piston on Five Live this morning. The man explained how he had been with his grandchildren and had wanted to see the falconry so did a trip on his own (not always easy to see what you want with kids in tow - we have all been there I think). He was told he couldn't go in because he was on his own. It didn't say that on the site when he visited it to check opening times. He fully understood and agreed with a policy of no single people in a soft play area for example, but he just wanted to see the falcons and there was nothing to say he couldn't until he actually travelled there.

So, next up the manager. The policy is as they now state on the website he said. He could have done a special falconry thing if he had booked. BUT when the presenter said 'so it is just single people?' the manager said yes. So the presenter went for clarification....'if Mr x had come along with a friend or his wife but no kids he could have got in' 'Yes' says the manager. When the presenter pointed out that didn't that just mean a paedophile would have just come back with a mate the manager said 'well it's a common policy!' So a single (presumably) innocent man can't get in to see the falcons but a couple of men or a man and woman, both without kids, can? Rose and Fred West, Myra Hindley and Ian Brady obviously don't ring bells with this lot as they just seem to assume single men or women could be up to no good and a couple must be related to to Snow White.

I totally agree with a 'you can only come in with kids' policy but they categorically said on Five Live that a couple would have been let in. I can't see the difference between one adult on their own and a couple of adults myself.

I think this rule is stupid, personally...this nation sees paedos at every street corner and lurking behind every bush I swear! Yes be protective of your children, hang onto them/don't let them out of your sight in public...but don't label every single adult a paedophile when you don't even know them! Crazy.

If you're that worried just don't take your children anywhere family related, i.e. swimming pools, bowling, family restaurants etc.

Esmum they just don't sound like they have though this policy through or have ever spoke to a police officer about child protection or they would have been told a couple or even parents with their own children can be sex offenders too.

A while ago I went to a soft play place, on my own. It's a very small place, one level, open plan. Not a single hidden corner, single use toilet, it's smaller than your average school hall. Female, 40, mummy looking.

It is somewhere I have been many times with the kids (though not as often as the local one).

I was refused entry, as an unaccompanied adult. Yes, the one who would have paid the adult entry fee, bought coffee and lunch...

What exactly did they think I was going to do? I mean it's not the sort of place you'd go on your own for a quiet coffee and hog a table all day, it's not the sort of place I imagine a peodophile would bother with. Batshit.

I'm not completely barking . I was meeting my friend there so that her DD didn't have to get bored while we had coffee. I had walked over, it was pissing with rain so I didn't want to wait outside. Despite telling them that, they still wouldn't let me in. Ridiculous, so we went elsewhere and neither of us have been back.

It's a ridiculous policy, and aside from the whole hysteria of seeing paedophiles behind every bush, it ignores the fact that most children who are abused by someone are abused by someone they know. It also creates a false sense of security, where parents should be teaching their child about safe behaviours, not assuming they are safe because a single grandfather who wants to see the falcons is discriminated against.

Pre-DS, for twenty years I travelled all over the world by myself. I went to Disney on my own, been to goodness knows how many zoos, and other various venues. I'd have been horrified if I could not sightsee based on the fact that I didn't have a partner.

It reminds me of when my lovely dad retired and was looking forward to going to London and visiting the museums but the first time he went to the Natural History Museum, despite minding his own business, teachers from a school party looked him up and down suspiciously and moved the children away from him because he was a man on his own. This was about 8 years ago and he's not been back to any museum since as it made him feel awful.