to think (the wine has made me brave) that Xfactor...

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...is the easiest way to split society into the intelligent and the easily deluded?
I cannot understand how people are duped by such FAKE and contrived shit, ay this stage!

Yeah I reckon Sharon's been there too. She's a wrong un

Dannii has admitted the Cowell affair, for the record. Not that anyone really fucking cares of course!

Nowt wrong with a bit of shit telly on a Saturday evening.

Totally agree. Going through a bit of a bad time, personally, and nowt like a bit of XFactor to lighten my mood. I'm well educated, and I think I'm intelligent. I don't take it seriously, but I enjoy it. Sue me.

You can both simultaneously enjoy watching it and know its fake.
I enjoy the camp of the ridiculous stagings and costumes they inflict on the poor sods competing. It's also fun to spot the obvious manipulations to see where the production team are trying to lead voters.

I was just thinking to myself that it has been about a week since somebody on MN told me that I was thick.

Thanks OP.

I just think its a shame that there are artists out there that are pretty unknown and exceptionally talented and a lot of the viewers would enjoy their music but will never hear them. Theres no doubting that there are individuals on these programmes with good voices but what is the point when at the end of it they can only sing either covers or badly written songs that are autotuned to death and then dropped cos their first single bombed. I think its a massive part of what is wrong with the music industry and thats why i dislike it so much rather than being a telly snob.

X Factor is usually fine for Saturday night shit telly.

This years contestants are so appallingly bad it is almost funny though. I can't watch it.

I'll tell my sister she needs to hand back her PhD, as she's obviously thick!

I watched X Factor earlier, I'm now laid in bed listening to Thomas Tallis being played by the London Philharmonic Orchestra. People are rarely one dimensional and can't be pigeonholed.

I watched it tonight because other people were and while I can't stand how over dramatic it is, I doubt many people buy that aspect hook line and sinker, most TV shows are like that. Most people just want to watch some singing and dancing.

I don't actually have strong feelings on this as I completely get that different people have very different styles of escapism...I'm absolutely NOT a telly snob, for example I love nothing better than to lose myself in Teen Mom 2 for a sky recorded bonanza with a hangover on a Sunday if Dh takes the kids to the park once in a while. I also love The Walking Dead and other such shit. I would still prefer not watch smirky multi millionaires try to convince the public that their phone call money is deciding whether an act becomes the next Kylie, when it has to hactivelyhas become obvious that they decide who they want to win and steer it in that direction. EVERY year. And yes, I have watched it of course, because I'm not a telly snob and will give anything a chance until realise that its just manipulative money making crap and I can't believe that such a large number of people still watch it when two years ago they saiI it had (thankfully) run its course.

Excuse mistakes due to stupid new phone (and me!)

It is shit. I can't watch it, as it makes me cringe. It's all so predictable, crowd pleasing, formulaic, pedalled out...bollocks.

They take these people with genuine talent and mould them and control them and give them shitty low brow songs to sing, until there's not a shred of them left.
It's quite depressing.

I watched X factor earlier, I am now in bed reading gossip websites. I am that one dimensional.

I think you are missing a crucial aspect here when it comes to "how anyone can watch it year after year": the MN X Factor threads .

I have genuinely laughed myself to tears, time after time, in the company of a bunch of regulars who have coalesced around this spectacularly crappy car crash television. It has been a corner of the boards safe from the slings and arrows of the post-PenisBeaker world, where you can reliably find some of the sharpest and funniest observations on mumsnet. Stupid it is not: the programme is basically where decent music and teenagers' dreams come to die, but the nest of vipers endures...

Oh dear. It seems I have been duped.

Of course I know it's shit, of course I know a lot of it us fake. It's light entertainment and I like cheesy music. Nothing worse than a TV snob (who is probably too thick to realise that not everyone takes every programme seriously!)

i can't believe xfactor is still going

I read the op as the deluded etc were those that took the xfactor seriously not all those that watch it. I know many people who sob at the contestants stories and actually think that these people have the longevity of an actual icon when the stats are not in their favor. They believe that people have worked very hard by turning up to the auditions unlike many touring bands who have heaps of talent and get paid naff all for years and years before they make it. They also get themselves wound up if the 'wrong' person gets put through, chanting fix etc. I see it every year on my Facebook feed.

so unless I'm reading this wrong i don't think the op was accusing all viewers as being deluded.

I hate to break this to you OP...but there aren't actually many intelligent programmes on the TV at all! You might as well roll with the low brow stuff.

I like x factor because it's one thing the kids can stay up late to watch on a Saturday and there's no nudity or swearing.

I think voting is free these days? So blows your money making theory out the water...

The vast majority of people who watch it would never dream of voting anyway.

I don't watch stuff like X factor and strictly, or stuff like TOWIE and soaps.

As much as I love documentaries and the like, I also love nothing more than having the house to myself and overloading on Come Dine With Me, Don't Tell The Bride and very corny US crime shows.

Each to their own innit! I daresay people question the fact that I watch a lot of sports, but it's what I choose to have on the screen in the comfort of my own home. Don't like it? Don't watch it!

But... For the record The Walking Dead is not shite!!!

Don't watch TV except for things I choose to see on Netflix so it doesn't affect me. However I do love live music and it would be a shame if reality shows became the normal route into the music business. My kids and I often giggle at the thought of how badly some of the bands / singers we like would get on on one of those shows.

A fine example of why the X Factor isn't worth the viewing time here.

Can't say as I'm surprised...the show is as el thicko as they come.

God strictly is just spine curlingly embarrassing.

Always amazed at the stupidity and ignorance of tele snobs.

You need more wine op.