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to think this was an unfair way to select children

101 replies

3boys40 · 04/11/2014 13:07

Given a number between 2 and 12 starting at the front of class. Than rolling a dice to select said children. You would think a maths teacher should know that gives certain children an unfair advantange. My poor ds who sits at the the front had no chance with 2.

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FrauHelga · 04/11/2014 13:16

The OP said A Dice - so I took that to mean one dice.

if more than one, then yes, the odds will be different (factors? )

cailindana · 04/11/2014 13:16

X post.

mymummademelistentoshitmusic · 04/11/2014 13:16

Yes you others are right, but the op specified 'a dice'. Unless its a test if some sorts. Can't imagine a normal person getting so get up about this.

Thesimplethings · 04/11/2014 13:17

Ah cross posts.

Thought I was going mad there Grin

AMumInScotland · 04/11/2014 13:17

It's one die or two (or more) dice. So "a dice" is wrong either way Grin

TeenAndTween · 04/11/2014 13:18

Schools do have fancy dice, so may have been 12 sided (though in that case why miss out number 1?)

Otherwise I despair of posters above who don't realise that with 2 dice the chance of scoring a total of 2 is 1 in 36, whereas the chance of scoring a total of 7 is 1 in 6.

3boys40 · 04/11/2014 13:18

sorry yes it was 2 of them.

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Psycobabble · 04/11/2014 13:19

Ahhh yeh if there was 2 dice ... That is unfair then

HesterShaw · 04/11/2014 13:19

Rolling two dice means 7 is most likely to come up.

HesterShaw · 04/11/2014 13:19

X posts with millions on others.

rebelfor · 04/11/2014 13:20

I still believe the probability is the same, if your number is 7 and you roll a 4, the other number MUST be a 3...

I don't know Confused

3boys40 · 04/11/2014 13:21

sorry used dice to mean 2 but shouldn't have said a

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SaucyJackOLantern · 04/11/2014 13:22

I guess that would depend if the dice were rolled at the same time, or one after the other as well?

TheLyingOldBitchAndHerWardrobe · 04/11/2014 13:22

Total on dice Pairs of dice Probability
2 1+1 1/36 = 3%
3 1+2, 2+1 2/36 = 6%
4 1+3, 2+2, 3+1 3/36 = 8%
5 1+4, 2+3, 3+2, 4+1 4/36 = 11%
6 1+5, 2+4, 3+3, 4+2, 5+1 5/36 = 14%
7 1+6, 2+5, 3+4, 4+3, 5+2, 6+1 6/36 = 17%
8 2+6, 3+5, 4+4, 5+3, 6+2 5/36 = 14%
9 3+6, 4+5, 5+4, 6+3 4/36 = 11%
10 4+6, 5+5, 6+4 3/36 = 8%
11 5+6, 6+5 2/36 = 6%
12 6+6 1/36 = 3%

TheLyingOldBitchAndHerWardrobe · 04/11/2014 13:22

Oh that formatted all wrong, I copied and pasted.

3boys40 · 04/11/2014 13:23

but if you have 2 the only hope is if you get a 1 and a 1.
4 could be 3 and 1 2 and 2etc

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edamsavestheday · 04/11/2014 13:23

Did the teacher explain this to the children? Was it a way of demonstrating probability? Or did they just 'choose' and leave it at that?

TheLyingOldBitchAndHerWardrobe · 04/11/2014 13:24

Total on dice Pairs of dice Probability
2: 1+1, 1/36 = 3%
3:1+2, 2+1, 2/36 = 6%
4: 1+3, 2+2, 3+1, 3/36 = 8%
5:1+4, 2+3, 3+2, 4+1, 4/36 = 11%
6:1+5, 2+4, 3+3, 4+2, 5+1, 5/36 = 14%
7:1+6, 2+5, 3+4, 4+3, 5+2, 6+1, 6/36 = 17%
8: 2+6, 3+5, 4+4, 5+3, 6+2, 5/36 = 14%
9:3+6, 4+5, 5+4, 6+3, 4/36 = 11%
10:4+6, 5+5, 6+4, 3/36 = 8%
11:5+6, 6+5,2/36 = 6%
12:6+6,1/36 = 3%

PetulaGordino · 04/11/2014 13:24

depends what he was selecting them for. was he demonstrating probability?

Nishky · 04/11/2014 13:25

What are they being selected for? If it was just a maths lesson YABU- if it was for a part in the nativity YANBU

arethereanyleftatall · 04/11/2014 13:26

Obviously the child who has number 7 has the best chance of being selected, with 2 & 12 the least.
But, given it's a maths teacher, I rather suspect that was the point if the exercise. Unless she/he is really thick.

3boys40 · 04/11/2014 13:26

It was to help out at parents evening. He really wanted to do it as his brother was coming and maths is by far his favourite and best subject. Most other subject teachers picked their form students (even less fair!!!)o he was completely overlooked despite volunteering.

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UmmAbdillah · 04/11/2014 13:27

Not understanding the big deal here... Surely the MATHS teacher was just using this as a way to teach maths?? If they used this method to pick people for sports then that's a little different. Somebody has to have the numbers 2 or 12... Life's unfair like that Hmm

Nanadookdookdook · 04/11/2014 13:27

Dice is plural, die is singular

5Foot5 · 04/11/2014 13:28

Yes you would expect a maths teacher to realise that was unfair. But unless it was selection for something really good maybe he/she didn't think it was important enough to go to too much trouble to ensure equal odds.

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