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to agree with sir lord sugar that Gordon brown should replace edd

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bonded · 01/11/2014 07:00

Anyone else agree that Gordon brown should come back as the labour leader? I really miss him, and don't think edd can even compare to him with his economic ability.

Even lord sugar would be better, he has the brains and know how to be one of the world a most successful billionaires.

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OttiliaVonBCup · 01/11/2014 11:26

No.
He's had a go at the job and done his bit.

Miliband has to go though and quickly.

Sunnymeg · 01/11/2014 11:28

Labour would do better with either Alan Johnson or Andy Burnham as leader. I think Gordon Brown is a man of great principle, but not media friendly enough.

When thinking of who to vote for I always think if we were in a full-scale war, who would I want to be in charge, but. I don't think the. rest of society thinks about that.

drudgetrudy · 01/11/2014 11:29

I may be wrong but from my understanding if he hadn't "run the economy on credit" to some degree there would have been a lot of unemployment which would have been just as costly and socially undesirable.

drudgetrudy · 01/11/2014 11:31

and again why do we need politicians to be "media friendly"?

ChippingInAutumnLover · 01/11/2014 11:31

Alan Sugar? You have to be joking?!

GB was dumped on from a great height. He can't come back as LL, as much as I'd like him to, because people (wrongly) blame him for 'selling off the gold' and single handed lay leading the world into a recession Hmm. Too many people can't get their head around the

Sadly, there really isn't an ideal LL, but you wouldn't have to look too far to find one who is more suited to speak on behalf of the UK than EM.

ChippingInAutumnLover · 01/11/2014 11:35

Because they need to be able to present well when they are representing the UK. If they can't do that 'at home' they're not going to do it 'away'. They need to command respect internationally and EM has no chace of doing that.

CrispyFern · 01/11/2014 11:38

I liked GB. Not smarmy like so many of the rest of them.

Cloudhowe63 · 01/11/2014 11:38

Sad that Labour seem to have chosen to play the 'media friendly' shallow pick me dance. Certainly north of the border they are now virtually unelectable. It is damaging our democracy.

carlsonrichards · 01/11/2014 11:40

God, no. Ed needs to go, though. Balls, just, sorry, that surname will never make a PM.

IsabellaofFrance · 01/11/2014 11:46

Neither Ed should be let near the running of the country.

Yvette Cooper or Alan Johnson would make a much better leader. Even Harriet Harmon would be better than those two.

drudgetrudy · 01/11/2014 11:51

I suppose people have different ideas of who "presents well". To me Margaret Thatcher presented extremely badly-her mannerisms grated. Tony Blair presented badly -with his long pauses and perpetual grin. David Cameron presents badly-appears smarmy.
To me Gordon Brown "presented" quite well.
However I still don't think this should be the priority as long as someone can explain their policies clearly.
Very irritated by media focus on what "SamCam" is wearing etc.
This isn't her fault by the way-I just dislike the way politics has been turned into a media circus.

BigredbAll · 01/11/2014 11:55

Are you sure Alan wasn't being sarcastic? Confused....do you actually think he really means it? Confused. Next you'll be saying bring back Tony Hmm.

Bigredball · 01/11/2014 11:57

Also, I read the "edd" in your title as "expected due date"...Grin

PrimalLass · 01/11/2014 11:58

He also seems to be pretty visual in his local community.

Er, no.

I do like him though.

MajesticWhine · 01/11/2014 12:11

Gordon Brown let public spending get totally out of control. I don't doubt that he is good man, with good intentions, but no thanks. I could not see myself ever voting for Ed Balls either.

Alisvolatpropiis · 01/11/2014 12:15

Gordon seems to be a good man but was ill suited to being Prime Minister. And indeed Chancellor. He inherited a poisoned chalice he was very much responsible for re the financial situation when he took over from Tony Blair.

I'd rather shoot myself with a bolt gun than vote for Ed Balls while we're at it.

doobledootch · 01/11/2014 12:36

Just because other people have done it doesn't make it a good idea, and yes he certainly encouraged it.

QuillPen · 01/11/2014 13:28

I liked Gordon Brown, but I am glad for his sake he is not Prime Minister anymore. I have a very soft spot for him and agree he was actually a sensible person.

Labour have shot themselves in the foot with Ed Milliband. He neither has the principles nor personality to win an election because people actually want him as PM and his only hope is that David Cameron might be seen as worse.

Alisvolatpropiis · 01/11/2014 13:36

Well, David Cameron is worse isn't he.

Miliband might have the charisma of plankton but he is the lesser of two evils.

drudgetrudy · 01/11/2014 14:01

Oh yes, Cameron is worse-shame that's the basis we are choosing on. And Nigel Farage, by the way, is worse still!
He seems the best of a rather uninspiring bunch.

bonded · 01/11/2014 17:12

I think this has just shown how much snobbery there is with frozen.

To the person that called my meal junk and said she would make pesto encrusted fish and fresh veg...I hope you made the pesto yourself, if not will have lots of nasty heat treated oil. And your fresh fish was probably caught, frozen, defrosted at the supermarket and left there for a few days, then a few days in your fridge. My fish and frozen vegetables are probably much more nutritional.

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bonded · 01/11/2014 17:14

Sorry ignore last post.

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bonded · 02/11/2014 06:40

Could this be the end of edd? Pretty shocking

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2817191/62p-HOUR-s-women-sleeping-16-room-paid-make-Ed-Harriet-s-45-Feminist-Looks-Like-T-shirts.html

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BadLad · 02/11/2014 07:41

but wasn't he unpleasant to voters behind their backs?

Yes - it was an excellent example of the utter contempt these politicians have for the electorate.

Didiusfalco · 02/11/2014 08:01

Yes Brown always seems like a man with integrity. Agree re. Johnson, have heard from people who have worked with him that he is a very nice man and well respected. Unfortunately Ed Milliband does not inspire confidence and I think any floating voters won't be prepared to take a chance on him.