to be INCENSED with the Mail Online?

[Mintyy]

Look, I know its a horrible right wing rag with a very questionable attitude towards women and this is the reason why I don't read it regularly ...

but I want to know if it is possible to do something to stop its lurid, wanton and totally unnecessary coverage of unspeakable animal cruelty cases!

I don't look at it all that often but every time I do there is some horrific story on there including pictures with NO WARNING. I can't recommend that you look at it today (very very upsetting banner headline including pictures) but I hope some of you will so that you know what I mean.

If I tweeted I would be twittering about this right now! Is there anything else the ordinary punter can do? Can I complain via the website? I can't face going back on there just now.

So mintyy are you actually saying no one should be able to read or view anything of which you disapprove? Many people manage to use the internet without violent porn or offensive images being forced upon them. Use your internet filters

If your wanting the media to curtail or even warn against what is reported or shown because it is potentially upsetting then we are on a slippery slope

Elephantsneverforgive, Lizzylou, you clearly have not read the article, or any article, and have no idea about what leads up to these animals being eaten for food. It's not about humans eating dogs, it's about the horrific condition in which they are kept, transported, hurt and killed.

They have.
They just don't care because they don't like dogs.

Rosey, I did watch it, it is undoubtedly awful but I find human suffering far worse.
if anything happened to my cat or hens I would be very upset. they are lovely and part of the family. If anything happened to my sons or husband (and we have had big scares this year) then I would be beyond consolation.

We do raise animals for food and my husband nearly died this year, perhaps these facts skew my views?

I think the media often warns that items might be upsetting, don't they?

It doesn't have to be one or the other though.

Felling sorry for human suffering does not have to diminish feeling sorry for animals.

Compassion is not a finite resource.

Yet you are bemused at others showing compassion for something? Are we not to post about one issue that has caught our attention unless we also post about x/y/z atrocities?

Raising animals for food is not what these people are doing.

I am sorry about your husband, and I sincerely hope he is well now.

X-post with exactly what I was thinking!

I don't think Mintyy is saying that these news items shouldnt be included, just that the dM site appears to make the most gruesome details the most prominent part of the story.

Very true Ottillia.
When was the last thread about human cruelty?
Perhaps we are getting desensitised?

No I haven't been moved to take action Kinky

So basically it's just prevented you from having a pleasant browse ?

Oh poor you.

Thankfully some of us have been moved enough to help to do something about it.

And yes change is possible. Animals Asia have also been running campaigns in conjunction with local charities and have worked with re-education and changing peoples opinions. There are now lots of charities founded and run by locals across China and South East Asia to help end this and other vile abuses.

www.animalsasia.org/uk/

Oh and for those taking the moral high ground of humans over animals. The two are not mutually exclusive. You can be concerned about both.

Rosey, I suppose I am surprised that this story is newsworthy when all around us seems to be utter mayhem and inhumanity.
Why is this story so bad?
Why not beheadings/rape/child abuse?

If you see what I mean? I don't want anyone/animal to suffer. I just don't see why this particular story is so much worse than others I suppose.

And thankyou, my dh is doing good. His brush with death has led to a huge menagerie though!

There's plenty.
There's one about FGM running right now.

For fuck sake, why aren't people allowed to be horriffied/upset/angered without others trying to belittle it on their 'scales' of acceptable levels of upset.

These animals aren't simply bred for meat! They are stolen, malnourished, abused, tortured, left to die slow painful deaths at the hands of some sadist!

Of course it is difficult to justify why one animal's meat is more worthy than anothers unless endangered but for christ's sake, is it really THAT terrible to expect/want said animals to be treated with an ounce of dignity?!

Some people on here are shit.

lizzy
I see posts here every day about the cruelty of humans to other humans - the dv posts, child sex abuse etc.

It could be desensitisation; murders and rape and child abuse are heard about all the time now. They're your common garden crimes (as horrible as that is for it to be true).

It might be that this is being noticed because it's on a greater magnitude - 1000s of dogs being crammed into cages, stabbed and boiled alive, rather than a crime against one person, or war crimes against civilians which we often feel are quite 'other' to us or removed from us.

I'd happily eat dog meat (or any other kind of meat) if it tasted nice. I wouldn't be too concerned for the welfare of the dog before it was slaughtered.

Eating dogs is no different to eating cows, pigs or sheep, I agree urbanelegend
However your attitude towards the welfare of the animals you choose to consume shows your lack of compassion and empathy.

YABU.

What do you want? To pretend distressing things, animal cruelty included, don't happen? As long as you don't see them it's ok, it'll all go away or it didn't happen anyway so we can all sleep soundly with nothing on our consciences, no reason to be troubled or to want to change things for the better?

Stop averting your precious gaze and fucking DO something about it!

There's also a picture of a burned little boy further down that people might want to avoid.

Yes hooby you have of course changed my mind with that intelligent post of yours.

I shan't be going back to the Mail Online Irina and it goes without saying that I wish they would stop showing graphic pictures of suffering in humans.

Perhaps I am cleverer than the average Mail Online reader and I can get the information I need (if indeed I need it at all) from words rather than pictures. That must be it.

Wow

You lot are really out of order to the op. Unhinged.

I absolutely understand what she means. I have also thought similar myself.

There was a channel 4 documentary about the treatment if these dogs which was very distressing but a great piece of journalism. But I don't think scrolling down a news site and being exposed to gratuitous images/ headline details is the same at all - obviously these stories get lots of hits and perhaps the more gratuitous the video, the more popular it is. But then you start to wonder why people want or need to view this stuff.

I've never seen it on the BBC site or Guardian. If they did show it, I am sure it would given a health warning.

Thank you for the link to the petition I have signed and also seen the article.

YABU Mintty. You know what that paper stands for and how it displays it's articles. Tbh I was more distressed at the picture of 30 Sunni men who were slaughtered in the street but hey you carry on blithering about a picture of animals that were being killed for food.